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I still think Jones is better. Possibly much better. But Zappe is far better than I thought he would be at this point.
I was disappointed with Jones before his injury. I expected better after what he showed last year. He didn’t deliver it. I’m still hopeful he will recover and get back on track. But I don’t see anything that makes him head and shoulders above Zappe. What specifically do you see as strengths that set him apart?
 
Zappe beats Det and the Browns and of course many reactionary fans think Zappe is a better QB than Jones.
Sure, he looks good with no pressure and open receivers, but most any QB would. Not to add playing with the lead, which helps immensely.

Looked better against the Browns than Justin Herbert did last week
 
I still think Jones is better. Possibly much better.
Jones won a National Championship with Alabama (unbeaten season). Zappe played for Houston Baptist and Western Kentucky. On paper Jones should be a level above BUT on grass (or field turf) they seem much closer than you would expect. There have been QBs from small schools do well in the NFL but a late pick and a small school is probably less common. A great pick, no matter how it plays out.
 
Depends on how they handle it. I’m not sure Mac could gracefully accept being displaced from his starting role.
Maybe not a nice thing to say, but it doesn’t matter how he takes it or how graceful he is about it. Bledsoe, Young, and Rodgers didn’t like being backups either. If that’s his job, he needs to do it and understand that he’s one play away from starting at all times.

And edit: I still think Mac is the guy.
 
I found this story from Breer a bit odd. Never felt like there was any tension from Mac. Adds a layer to the QB situation.

If that is truly the case, trade him to carolina for their first & Brian Burns
 
I actually have no idea what anyone has seen from Mac that would say Mac is much better?

Mac has talent and potential but he hasn’t really shown a lot outside of that
I’ve started asking for specifics whenever someone posts about Mac being better.

still waiting for the first answer.

I‘ll keep asking.
 
The team as a whole is getting better. Zappe benefits from that. That said I think you have to be pretty special to go in there and play like you've been there all along
 
Zappe beats Det and the Browns and of course many reactionary fans think Zappe is a better QB than Jones.
Sure, he looks good with no pressure and open receivers, but most any QB would. Not to add playing with the lead, which helps immensely.

He’s absolutely faced pressure and he’s handled it beautifully. Myles Garrett, arguably the best edge in the league, was rushing him today. Can’t say he hasn’t faced good competition. You can’t teach his poise in the pocket.

As for throwing to open receivers, also not always true. He’s made some legit tight window throws with zip. Gets the ball to the intermediate boundary, outside the hashes, quite well, too.
 
Well, unfortunately if Belichick chooses Zappe, the Raiders have made a big long term commitment to Carr. I could see McDaniels giving up a first for Mac otherwise.

You have Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Carolina. How ironic would it be if it was Tampa Bay???
 
Maybe not a nice thing to say, but it doesn’t matter how he takes it or how graceful he is about it. Bledsoe, Young, and Rodgers didn’t like being backups either. If that’s his job, he needs to do it and understand that he’s one play away from starting at all times.

And edit: I still think Mac is the guy.
Agree. Unless locker room chemistry goes toxic as a result. That’s my concern about it.
 
And how do we feel about 300+ yards, equally spread to 4 out of 7 pass catchers (60ish each), 2 TD, no int., from our third ah say third string QB?

Officially anyway. Something tells me he's earned a little bit of leeway before Mac is back.
Has Mac had a 300 yard game yet?
 
It's wild that Bill continually has fielded a good defense since Brady's departure, one that keeps games winnable in an era of high scoring.
Well he was once the greatest defensive mind of all time in his prime. He’s still probably the best in the league as a defensive coach
 
Jones won a National Championship with Alabama (unbeaten season). Zappe played for Houston Baptist and Western Kentucky. On paper Jones should be a level above BUT on grass (or field turf) they seem much closer than you would expect. There have been QBs from small schools do well in the NFL but a late pick and a small school is probably less common. A great pick, no matter how it plays out.
I think there are a lot of folks who assume that playing for a small school means a player doesn’t have the talent for a big time program. But there are a lot of reasons to end up in a small school that have nothing to do with talent.
 
Well he was once the greatest defensive mind of all time in his prime. He’s still probably the best in the league as a defensive coach
You seem to be suggesting he is past his prime. On what basis? Age bias?
 
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