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Sorry to break it to you but the GOAT wears a different uniform since 2020.
As for Mac Jones has looked HORRIFIC in 2022. He has the 34th ranked QB rating in the NFL at 70.8. If anything he has REGRESSED. That's why Bailey Zappe should be the starter next week. Why throw Mac out there when he is not fully healthy, not fully prepared, and not playing with any semblance of confidence?
A bunch of posters, including you, are saying very silly things. So whether you call it "emotional" or just crazy, you have no room to be talking on this subject.
Last night was an unmitigated disaster. What BB chose to do last night cannot be easily undone.
We are used to laughing at teams like the Jets, et al. that destroy their QB's, year after year.
Yet last night BB took a big step in that direction. If Mac Jones isn't afforded patience to work through whatever his issues are, overthinking or getting happy feet, then who will be?
Zappe is flying high right now, but what happens when the Zappe express comes crashing to Earth, sooner or later? Does he get benched in favor of Mac?
So why dont they run these leak plays with mac. Why is mac in shotgun all the time. Zappe is okay when the run game is working and they are playing from ahead. I cant believe we have turned on the best rookie QB from last yr just because he is peformning badly in the first 4 games under a new offense and new OC.
Those who dismiss Zappe's accomplishments because he is running a "simplified" offense would do well to think back to the truly stone-ax-simple offense Mac was allowed in HIS first 2/3 games. Surely that is the apt point of comparison. No matter, though: whether you compare Mac's first few games in the NFL to Zappe's, or Mac's play this year to Zappe's play this year, Zappe emerges as the clearly better qb. I get the first-rounder thing, but haven't we always been told that counts for little here?
As you noted previously, Mac's poor production was all on him. He is the one who is falling apart.
Zappe didn't make bone headed plays. The bears adjusted to him and took advantage of his height. We'll see if Zappe and the coaching staff can adjust back.
It is clear that Patricia has a different playbook for Jones and Zappe. And I don't get why they won't run the Zappe plays for Jones.
Bedard has a similar report that people around the league are saying the same things. He takes it a step far that I am not willing to go that Patricia and Judge may be trying to sabotage Jones to get Zappe on the field, but he is hearing the same thing as Perry that there are clearly two playbooks. One for Jones and one for Zappe and Zappe has the better plays.
And it is clear the Bears, as this video stated, had a book on Zappe and knew how defend him. Hence why they didn't even bother to prepare to play him this week and spent all their time preparing for Mac Jones. And if Perry's Bears' sources are right, the Bears didn't come into this game with much respect for Zappe either.
I have yet to see a single actual argument or empirical observation in your recent posts. Got any? As it stands, these read like the scribblings of an angry middle schooler.
It is clear that Patricia has a different playbook for Jones and Zappe. And I don't get why they won't run the Zappe plays for Jones.
Bedard has a similar report that people around the league are saying the same things. He takes it a step far that I am not willing to go that Patricia and Judge may be trying to sabotage Jones to get Zappe on the field, but he is hearing the same thing as Perry that there are clearly two playbooks. One for Jones and one for Zappe and Zappe has the better plays.
And it is clear the Bears, as this video stated, had a book on Zappe and knew how defend him. Hence why they didn't even bother to prepare to play him this week and spent all their time preparing for Mac Jones. And if Perry's Bears' sources are right, the Bears didn't come into this game with much respect for Zappe either.
No we don't want to have Jones running an offense that is designed for him throw a lot down the field but doesn't allow the receivers to get open because the routes and plays are unimaginative and predictable. There are far too many plays that have him throwing 50-50 balls to the perimeter.
It isn't that they dumbed down the offense for Zappe (which they did the first two games). In fact, some of the routes are more creative. They just run a lot of plays to allow receivers to get open and to give Zappe time in the pocket. Despite the one pass to Parker, they are not asking Zappe to throw a lot of 50-50 balls.
Zappe plays a lot under center with play action which slows down the rush and allows receiver a better opportunity to get open. Jones rarely plays under center even on running plays. And one of the two times they had him do play action last night was out of shotgun and not under center which doesn't sell the run as much as it would under center.
It is clear that Patricia has a different playbook for Jones and Zappe. And I don't get why they won't run the Zappe plays for Jones.
Bedard has a similar report that people around the league are saying the same things. He takes it a step far that I am not willing to go that Patricia and Judge may be trying to sabotage Jones to get Zappe on the field, but he is hearing the same thing as Perry that there are clearly two playbooks. One for Jones and one for Zappe and Zappe has the better plays.
And it is clear the Bears, as this video stated, had a book on Zappe and knew how defend him. Hence why they didn't even bother to prepare to play him this week and spent all their time preparing for Mac Jones. And if Perry's Bears' sources are right, the Bears didn't come into this game with much respect for Zappe either.
Sorry, my friend, but as the facts are all on the Zappe side, you are stuck with these silly conspiracy theories. Must be stressful. I say let the man who has put down the superior empirical record play the game. That would be Zappe. If you have any facts to the contrary, trot 'em out. If Zappe is as inadequate as you presume your Mac will make a triumphant return, hopefully with a renewed determination to avoid launching random eephus balls headed Lord Knows Where.
No we don't want to have Jones running an offense that is designed for him throw a lot down the field but doesn't allow the receivers to get open because the routes and plays are unimaginative and predictable. There are far too many plays that have him throwing 50-50 balls to the perimeter.
It isn't that they dumbed down the offense for Zappe (which they did the first two games). In fact, some of the routes are more creative. They just run a lot of plays to allow receivers to get open and to give Zappe time in the pocket. Despite the one pass to Parker, they are not asking Zappe to throw a lot of 50-50 balls.
So, the offense Zappe ran last night was different than the first 2 games? I'm a simpleton, can you explain how? Sounds like a quick learner, even if batted balls got the best of him in the 2nd half.
Why are we assuming the coaches are telling Mac to throw 50-50 balls? I don't think that has ever been a legitimate offensive strategy, and don't think that would fly with Mac or the rest of the offense. That seems far less likely than Mac simply making bad reads and decisions (we've seen multiple plays where Mac has thrown to completely covered receivers when he had someone else wide open). Maybe things had been easier for Zappe because he wasn't making things harder than they needed to be.
Sorry, my friend, but as the facts are all on the Zappe side, you are stuck with these silly conspiracy theories. Must be stressful. I say let the man who has put down the superior empirical record play the game. That would be Zappe. If you have any facts to the contrary, trot 'em out. If Zappe is as inadequate as you presume your Mac will make a triumphant return, hopefully with a renewed determination to avoid launching random eephus balls headed Lord Knows Where.
Yes, if you don't watch the games or you don't understand the game of football you can say they are running the same offense and Zappe is just running it better. Those "facts" would support your argument. But if you actually look at the plays run, they are clearly different.
BTW, did you hear Perry speak about how the Bears think about Zappe? Small, weak armed, cannot see over the line. They said they felt it was easier to defend against him for d-linemen because they don't have to rush and just hold the line and get their hands up and turn it into a "volleyball game". Exactly what they did in the second half. The Bears clearly knew how to defend Zappe without preparing for him. Other teams will just follow that script.
So, the offense Zappe ran last night was different than the first 2 games? I'm a simpleton, can you explain how? Sounds like a quick learner, even if batted balls got the best of him in the 2nd half.
Why are we assuming the coaches are telling Mac to throw 50-50 balls? I don't think that has ever been a legitimate offensive strategy, and don't think that would fly with Mac or the rest of the offense. That seems far less likely than Mac simply making bad reads and decisions (we've seen multiple plays where Mac has thrown to completely covered receivers when he had someone else wide open). Maybe things had been easier for Zappe because he wasn't making things harder than they needed to be.
Other than Mac Jones saying repeatedly that the playbook is designed for him to throw 50-50 balls, I am not sure what tells me that they are asking him to do it. They got Parker specifically because his specialty is being one of the better 50-50 ball WRs in the league.
As for Zappe, they have opened up the playbook a bit for him. But the plays are made to protect him and give him more opportunities.
I have yet to see a single actual argument or empirical observation in your recent posts. Got any? As it stands, these read like the scribblings of an angry middle schooler.
No we don't want to have Jones running an offense that is designed for him throw a lot down the field but doesn't allow the receivers to get open because the routes and plays are unimaginative and predictable. There are far too many plays that have him throwing 50-50 balls to the perimeter.
It isn't that they dumbed down the offense for Zappe (which they did the first two games). In fact, some of the routes are more creative. They just run a lot of plays to allow receivers to get open and to give Zappe time in the pocket. Despite the one pass to Parker, they are not asking Zappe to throw a lot of 50-50 balls.
Zappe plays a lot under center with play action which slows down the rush and allows receiver a better opportunity to get open. Jones rarely plays under center even on running plays. And one of the two times they had him do play action last night was out of shotgun and not under center which doesn't sell the run as much as it would under center.
So they are designing an offense for Zappe that allows receivers to get open and allows more time in the pocket. By inference, they are depriving Mac of these two things. Two things that are vital to any offense succeeding.
Are we assuming Mac doesn't have open receivers because he gets sacked or takes off and runs? Would it surprise you if the all-22 shows receivers open and Mac just isn't seeing the field? Could it be that the perceived lesser pocket time for Mac is due to his own lack of processing?
It's one of two things: The coaches are sand bagging Mac and saving the good plays for Zappe. Or Mac has been the problem.
I will go back to the lazy, uninformed take that Zappe's TD to Jakobi was a bad throw. A breakdown of the play and basic football knowledge shows that throw to be where it was supposed to be. But Jakobi had to adjust and make a great catch, so it must have been a bad throw.
Mac can't find any open receivers = The receivers aren't getting open? It's the simplistic, easy conclusion. May not be true.
Yes, if you don't watch the games or you don't understand the game of football you can say they are running the same offense and Zappe is just running it better. Those "facts" would support your argument. But if you actually look at the plays run, they are clearly different.
BTW, did you hear Perry speak about how the Bears think about Zappe? Small, weak armed, cannot see over the line. They said they felt it was easier to defend against him for d-linemen because they don't have to rush and just hold the line and get their hands up and turn it into a "volleyball game". Exactly what they did in the second half. The Bears clearly knew how to defend Zappe without preparing for him. Other teams will just follow that script.
I know that the plays were different between Zappe and Mac. What I am asking you to explain us how the plays for Zappe last night were different than the ones they ran for him in the previous games (your assertion). Because evidently, Zappe's first two drives were good plays and the ones Mac should be running, not previous game Zappe plays, which were dumbed down.
I've responded to your posts a lot because I've felt that you have best represented the "Mac over Zappe" side. But at this point, you're tying yourself into knots trying to explain the higher offensive success with Zappe over Mac.
And I definitely don't care about the Bears' trash talk. They also felt confident about shutting down Mac and they did just that.
