No Security staff above row 7 in 300 Section? For a MNF Game?!

[tailgater]

Sorry if this was posted earlier in the week, but did anyone in the nosebleeds last week notice there was evidently no security personnel in the upper deck last Monday night - none at all? I could see a handful keeping people from accessing rows 1-7, but, besides them, that was it.

I gave my tix in 304 to a friend and bought a single in 316. In the 4th qtr, one big Bills fan, sitting in 315 around row 18 finally had enough of some drunken Pat fan in row 25. He ran up the stairs, said a few words, then sucker-punched the guy.

The guys friends jumed in and all of a sudden boides were falling down over the rows beneath them. One dude, an innocent bystander, got hurled at least 4-5 rows before the bodies beneath him stopped his progress.

I'm looking around for the cops & security to swarm the area, but nobody showed up. Never did. It was only after that that the STHs in the area commented on the complete lack of security around the stadium. Not a green shirt to be seen.

Wonder if thats why they went from the bright yellow shirts of last year to green this year? So it wasn't as obvious that there was no security to speak of? Last year, there was always one at the bottom and one at the top of each stairway. If trouble occurred, it was snuffed out quick.

Someone will get hurt if they keep up the practice this season.

 

[QuickOutGo]

I guess I didn't notice it at the time and there were no incidents anywhere around me, but now that you mention it I don't recall seeing any security at all during the game (I'm about halfway up in the 300s). Like you said, in past years there were always green/yellow shirts stationed everywhere. Usually once a quarter or so one of them would wander up and down the stairs just to check things over.

 

[denverpatsfan]

I'm not surprised. Mickey mouse operation there. Whether it was Foxboro Stadium or Gillette. It's not built for you. It's built for the club box seat owners and stadium club level "fans".

 

[Patjew]

Hey, that big Bills fan was sitting right behind me! He actually seemed like a nice, funny guy. The reason why he ran up there is because those guys nailed him with a beer after the Bill s scored with 5 minutes left. I know because my dad and I also got hit with it, as did some others around us including a little kid. That "innocent bystander" appeared to be charging up the stairs towards the Bills fan and he did get kicked over 3 or 4 rows of seats. I've never seen anything like it.

The Bills fan's wife was a Pats fan and I told her to get her guy and get the hell out of there before it exploded. The whole thing only lasted a couple of minutes. Later the guy that sits next to us said they saw the Bills fan in cuffs on the concourse, so I guess security caught up to him.

The whole thing reminded me of old-Foxboro.

 

[PatsDeb]

We didn't have any problems with security in Section 236 (thank goodness) and the game near us also ended with Bills fans in handcuffs. There were three Bills fans (among others - they had a pretty good showing at the game) in the 2nd to last row of the section. There was a lot of loud, for the most part good-natured, ribbing for the first 55 minutes of the game back and forth between them and the Pats fans. There was an old-time cop standing behind them at the rail (my section has the doors behind it leading into the club seats), and I saw him keeping an eye on things, but even laughing at some of the things being said. Right when the Pats started turning things around in the 4th quarter, something happened. I didn't see it, but I heard one of these Buffalo fans started getting in the face of a Pats fan. The cop told them to "get out," but they took their time listening to him, even when he grabbed one of them and started "escorting" him out of the seats. Next thing you know the cop is calling over a couple of his buddies and the three Bills guys are lined up against the wall getting the cuffs slapped on them. This is in the midst of the Pats staging one of the greatest comebacks ever. It was surreal. The Buffalo fans went from ****y bastards having a lot of loud laughs at the expense of the Pats to shocked losers being led out of the stadium in handcuffs as the game went down the drain for their team. I couldn't help think how it must have felt to have to call their wives/girlfriends/mothers(?) to bail them out after that debacle.

We all of course waved a cheery goodbye to them!

 

[Patjew]

Yeah Deb, my dad and I were talking about that kind of thing. It was funny to think about how that big Bills fan guy went from so happy that his Bills were going to pull off a huge upset to getting doused with beer/in a fight/arrested/having his team lose - all within less than a half hour! What a turn of events.

I don't think that that Bills fan was all in the wrong, but that's why I always STFU and keep my Pats colors subtle when in enemy territory.

 

[PatsDeb]

Yeah Deb, my dad and I were talking about that kind of thing. It was funny to think about how that big Bills fan guy went from so happy that his Bills were going to pull off a huge upset to getting doused with beer/in a fight/arrested/having his team lose - all within less than a half hour! What a turn of events.

I don't think that that Bills fan was all in the wrong, but that's why I always STFU and keep my Pats colors subtle when in enemy territory.

So true. I've also gone to enemy territory with kids and we try to keep our cheers moderate. The guys who got arrested were freely admitting (while the Bills were still winning by 2 scores) that they were going to get beat up on the way out of the stadium, so they were going to enjoy taunting all of us while they had the chance. There was another couple in front of us where the guy had on a Bills jersey and the lady had on a Pats jersey. He was quietly cheering his team and was so happy they were winning (but didn't taunt anyone). A couple of fair weather Pats fans (who left after Buffalo scored its last TD) congratulated him on the big upset. He had his head in his hands and looked like he was going to cry by the end. But, at least he didn't get arrested!

Happy Rosh Hashannah by the way!

 

[cupofjoe1962]

They may have cut back on security this year.

They did post a number on the scoreboard to report problems.
The instructions say to text to 78247 & title it "Conduct".
You should include details to the problem.

I know the Sox have the same kind of setup.
They remove the fan on the first report.

Last year a drunk Pats fan started trouble with a Jets fan who had a 2 year
old girl with him. The mother of the girl reported the incident to security
who appeared and refused to take action. I spoke up and told them that the
drunk starts problems at every game he attends. They said that they could
not do anything, unless he started trouble again. They were then in the wind
and the women could not find security when the drunk started a fight with her
husband. I did not care about 2 guys fighting (I survived Shaffer). I did care
about the little girl who should not have been at a night game.

When I seen the message on the scoreboard, I told a friend that if I was
in my old seats (I got an upgrade in 2009) I would buy a half dozen pre-paid tracphones just to text security and get the drunk removed.

If you have trouble, text security and give us and updated on what they
do when a problem has been reported.

 

[Patjew]

Thanks Deb!

 

[tailgater]

They may have cut back on security this year.

They did post a number on the scoreboard to report problems.
The instructions say to text to 78247 & title it "Conduct".
You should include details to the problem.

I know the Sox have the same kind of setup.
They remove the fan on the first report.

Last year a drunk Pats fan started trouble with a Jets fan who had a 2 year
old girl with him. The mother of the girl reported the incident to security
who appeared and refused to take action. I spoke up and told them that the
drunk starts problems at every game he attends. They said that they could
not do anything, unless he started trouble again. They were then in the wind
and the women could not find security when the drunk started a fight with her
husband. I did not care about 2 guys fighting (I survived Shaffer). I did care
about the little girl who should not have been at a night game.

When I seen the message on the scoreboard, I told a friend that if I was
in my old seats (I got an upgrade in 2009) I would buy a half dozen pre-paid tracphones just to text security and get the drunk removed.

If you have trouble, text security and give us and updated on what they
do when a problem has been reported.

a text wouldn't have helped much in this case. Security in the immediate area would have, something they had the last few years and do not have this season so far. It would take minutes for a sufficient number of nem up those stairs. things can and will get out of hand before they get there.

 

[Patjew]

a text wouldn't have helped much in this case. Security in the immediate area would have, something they had the last few years and do not have this season so far. It would take minutes for a sufficient number of nem up those stairs. things can and will get out of hand before they get there.

You're right, that fight went from 0 to 100 in like 5 seconds. I have to think that if security was around that BBF (big Bills fan) wouldn't have charged up the stairs.

It would take minutes for a sufficient number of nem up those stairs.

I don't understand what an elderly banned poster could have done to prevent this situation, though.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Unless things have changed since I've stopped going to games, the Gillette Stadium security crew basically consists of 17 year old group volunteers, no?

 

[denverpatsfan]

Plenty of good seats available in Buffalo nowadays. Those Bills fans don't really need to come down to Foxboro by the thousands like they used to in Jim Kelly days. Maybe they should let the Pats and their fans enjoy some success for a while like they had without the 2-year old kids and drunken smack talking.

 

[PatsDeb]

Unless things have changed since I've stopped going to games, the Gillette Stadium security crew basically consists of 17 year old group volunteers, no?

No, those are the guys in the parking lots who are supposed to stop brawls by drunks driving big SUVs and trying to edge eachother out for 4 hours (sad, but true). I've noticed a lot of the security in the stadium (and I am in the middle deck, not the upper) is retired policemen.

 

[tailgater]

You're right, that fight went from 0 to 100 in like 5 seconds. I have to think that if security was around that BBF (big Bills fan) wouldn't have charged up the stairs.


I don't understand what an elderly banned poster could have done to prevent this situation, though.

LOL! Nem would talk him to sleep or redirect his attention to himself!

 

[Michael]

The whole thing reminded me of old-Foxboro.

Well they were in throw-back unis. I'd say your section got the complete Sullivan stadium experience.

 

[Patjew]

Well they were in throw-back unis. I'd say your section got the complete Sullivan stadium experience.

If only I got pee'd on I could agree with you.

 

[Deus Irae]

If only I got pee'd on I could agree with you.

Given what used to pass for beer, a spilled drink is probably close enough.

 

[Patjew]

Given what used to pass for beer, a spilled drink is probably close enough.

Oh DI, I could not even hope to keep up with you right now. I am surfing two sites... awfully.

 

[Deus Irae]

Oh DI, I could not even hope to keep up with you right now. I am surfing two sites... awfully.

I read about it. Congratulations and commiserations on your 24+ hours awake. You'll be a while recovering from it.