Content Post N'Keal Harry (lack of) Progress Report

[203Pat]

nope...........but there is absolutely no point to be dwelling on it now........

So then what should we make threads about this year? You can only have so many of the "We're on to ______" posts and post game analysis threads.

 

[IllegalContact]

So then what should we make threads about this year? You can only have so many of the "We're on to ______" posts and post game analysis threads.

I just bumped up the Micheal Onwenu thread.........we drafted an all-pro right tackle in the 6th round this year

 

[203Pat]

I just bumped up the Micheal Onwenu thread.........we drafted an all-pro right tackle in the 6th round this year

So we can discuss one but not the other?

 

[IllegalContact]

So we can discuss one but not the other?

So you've not finished making your point about Harry? what else do you have to say about him other than repeating yourself......you can talk about whatever you want, I'm just making a point that's as obvious as Harry's downside..........feel free to dwell on the negative, I guess it's what you do best

 

[Kontradiction]

Kontra, even someone from Worchester must be able to figure this out. Their qb can't throw more than 5 yards with any accuracy. Harry is not a little quick run 5 yards and get open wr. At some point the qb has to take some of the blame. Even you, through your Brady colored glasses has to understand that. Why play Harry when Cam simply isn't able to throw to him. It doesn't mean Harry is bad, because good god Cam sure is.

They’re both bad. And I’ve been incredibly hard on Cam so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Harry isn’t losing snaps week by week for no reason. Hell, his snaps should be up around the 80% mark if he was worth a damn. He’s a good run blocker and we’re a power running team and, yet, he isn’t seeing the field. What does that tell you?

 

[moosekill]

Yeah, sorry Moosekill, but this argument is very weak

Cam is an NFL QB. there are other NFL QBs out there throwing the rock to NFL WRs

To compare those similar individuals is only natural. Rational thinking always uses something as a comparison, even inconsciously, so we can determine what is good, bad or whatever in between

If we cant compare Harry to other WRs drafted in the same class as him, if we cant complain that he's been underwhelming, we might as well cancel sports altogether cause rivalry is foundation of it all.

I am tired of dealing with people who aren't very bright. If you think that a qb who throws 70 yards a game is going to give anyone of those wr's amazing numbers you are number then a stump. Cam sucks.

Harry was a rookie last year who was hurt in training camp then missed 1/2 the season. He didn't mesh with Brady for whatever reason, but lets face it, most rookie wr's didn't. Malcolm Mitchell in his first 7 games with Brady had 11 catches. Harry in his first 7 games with Brady had 12 catches. But somehow Mitchell recovered and did much better as the season wore on.

So this year we have a qb who sucks and it is Harry's fault and not Cam's. Got it.

 

[203Pat]

So you've not finished making your point about Harry? what else do you have to say about him other than repeating yourself......you can talk about whatever you want, I'm just making a point that's as obvious as Harry's downside..........feel free to dwell on the negative, I guess it's what you do best

Nothing better than the "holier than thou" posters who need to enter threads they don't like, complain about the thread, and act like they are the arbitor of what is to be posted about and discussed on this forum. If you don't want to read negative opinions on Harry don't click on the thread that is called N'Keal Harry lack of progress thread. It is pretty simple.

 

[JayNM]

yup and 1118 posts in, still stating the obvious ....... Sunday was a good win, though

Yeah i know right, and some people r still bringing Brady's life and personnel to this discussion! Crazy

Makes me wonder why u were confused about the subject to begin with

 

[IllegalContact]

Nothing better than the "holier than thou" posters who need to enter threads they don't like, complain about the thread, and act like they are the arbitor of what is to be posted about and discusses on this forum. If you don't want to read negative opinions on Harry don't click on the thread that is called N'Keal Harry lack of progress thread. It is pretty simple.

there is one thing that's better................the perpetual b1tch............ you have the right to whine, and I have the right to call yo a whiner because of it......you can put me on ignore if you like.........don't get too defensive though.....you probably can't help it

 

[Toofy]

Nee to try shoulder fades and red zone throws to harry . Because we have cam , harry as a red zone threat does not materialize as more often than not, cam runs to the end zone.

Harry i feel could be a productive player for us if we have a decent passer . He is not a slot rx or a burner. He might not be the first rounder we hoped for , but could be a poor man's gronk . We should try to salvage something from him from where he was drafted ... If we cannot play to his strengths then we need to trade or cut him off. I still feel he will do well on packers , chiefs or seahawks..

 

[IllegalContact]

Yeah i know right, and some people r still bringing Brady's life and personnel to this discussion! Crazy

Makes me wonder why u were confused about the subject to begin with

not confused at all........pointing out the miserable has been a hobby of mine for years

 

[JayNM]

I am tired of dealing with people who aren't very bright. If you think that a qb who throws 70 yards a game is going to give anyone of those wr's amazing numbers you are number then a stump. Cam sucks.

Harry was a rookie last year who was hurt in training camp then missed 1/2 the season. He didn't mesh with Brady for whatever reason, but lets face it, most rookie wr's didn't. Malcolm Mitchell in his first 7 games with Brady had 11 catches. Harry in his first 7 games with Brady had 12 catches. But somehow Mitchell recovered and did much better as the season wore on.

So this year we have a qb who sucks and it is Harry's fault and not Cam's. Got it.

lol

guess u dont like the mirror very much

I aint even going in, u can go jerk yourself. Later, read this

https://www.uzh.ch/cmsssl/suz/dam/jcr:00000000-64a0-5b1c-0000-00003b7ec704/10.05-kahneman-tversky-79.pdf

 

[JayNM]

not confused at all........pointing out the miserable has been a hobby of mine for years

gotta be one to know one

 

[jdlboot14]

1 win separates Newton,Harry,Meyers,Byrd,Izzo from Brady,Evans,Godwin,Miller,Gronk

what are we talking about again?

that fact is mind-blowing, and really shows how amazing BB is. Also shows how ill-equipped so many coaches are. Arians is an ego-driven, risk taker. Those guys work with a certain group, for a short time, but never last. I can't imagine Brady can stand it very long.

 

[Kontradiction]

I am tired of dealing with people who aren't very bright. If you think that a qb who throws 70 yards a game is going to give anyone of those wr's amazing numbers you are number then a stump. Cam sucks.

Harry was a rookie last year who was hurt in training camp then missed 1/2 the season. He didn't mesh with Brady for whatever reason, but lets face it, most rookie wr's didn't. Malcolm Mitchell in his first 7 games with Brady had 11 catches. Harry in his first 7 games with Brady had 12 catches. But somehow Mitchell recovered and did much better as the season wore on.

So this year we have a qb who sucks and it is Harry's fault and not Cam's. Got it.

Tired of dealing with people who aren’t very bright? What are you going to do then? Kill yourself?

 

[IllegalContact]

gotta be one to know one

that's a fallacy

 

[JayNM]

that's a fallacy

EDIT - I love the comeback. Too bad denial is confirmation

 

[IllegalContact]

that fact is mind-blowing, and really shows how amazing BB is. Also shows how ill-equipped so many coaches are. Arians is an ego-driven, risk taker. Those guys work with a certain group, for a short time, but never last. I can't imagine Brady can stand it very long.

it's not all on the coach.........even Switzer managed to win an SB

 

[Kontradiction]

it's not all on the coach.........even Switzer managed to win an SB

It’s the secondary coming together, the rookies contributing for once (even if it’s just on defense, it’s good to see), the OL which is maybe the best in the NFL, and the emergence of Harris. Keep in mind that Harris is running through 8 man boxes and the OL is still able to open holes for him. He’s the best overall RB we’ve had since Blount. Maybe since Dillon, but I’m not ready to heap that kind of praise on him yet.

Byrd would be an absolutely solid WR3 and would do some damage if able to line up as the Y. Meyers is emerging as a solid WR2. Both of them are developing in the system. In Byrd’s case, it took him a half a season to click. Unfortunately, we do not have a WR1/X unless Edelman suddenly finds the fountain of youth. Because that’s just not Harry. About a month ago, Lazar went into detail on Harry...



It’s also pretty obvious when watching how he’s covered. Usually press, with the corner taking inside shade because they don’t respect him enough to fear getting beat on the outside. He needs to be moved to an H-Back role where he can take advantage of being covered by a LB or a SS. His route tree would be slimmed down and it would take advantage of his best skill set - winning jump balls. The kid can certainly block, so I’m not sure why they’re still trying to force a square peg in a round hole with him.

 

[moosekill]

Tired of dealing with people who aren’t very bright? What are you going to do then? Kill yourself?

Reading these chicken little posts this year it is tempting. I swear the iq on the board is the same as the temperature outside.