NFL Free Agency 2022 edition

[Hammer of Thor]

I’m not a huge wise fan. Would like flowers brought in to replace him and at least one edge drafted to supplement him.

So far they restructured Henry Anderson and Wise. My assumption is that it makes more sense to push future salary for a player you expect on the team long term but these two moves so far tell the opposite story.

One clarification here. Wise was a traditional restructure in the way that you mention and your point applies. Anderson was a pay reduction — basically, he agrees to a reduced salary or the team cuts him. Similar to what they did to Amendola and Dwayne Allen in the past. Anderson’s contract expires after. 2022. So the point is that only Wise is someone they really anticipate being on the team for the long term, not Anderson.

 

[Love The Drake]

I would say mostly Tom right there the GOAT covered up a lot of deficiencies and that's a fact. We can't make a lot of mistakes going forward because we're going pay for them on field as we have seen after his departure.

But the Buff game for example the most embarrassing loss in forever was solely on the defense.

Bill realized he was caught with his pants down basically is fielding all new linebackers next season.

Didn’t blow the cap up on JC Jackson where as great as he was against number 2s and possession 1’s got torched by speed.

I will argue that yes JC had a ton of turnovers but how many of those were deflected catches by another player?
Or bobble by receivers?
This wasn’t Revis or Law and he didn’t deserve to get paid as such.

 

[PatsFan2]

But the Buff game for example the most embarrassing loss in forever was solely on the defense.

Bill realized he was caught with his pants down basically is fielding all new linebackers next season.

Didn’t blow the cap up on JC Jackson where as great as he was against number 2s and possession 1’s got torched by speed.

I will argue that yes JC had a ton of turnovers but how many of those were deflected catches by another player?
Or bobble by receivers?
This wasn’t Revis or Law and he didn’t deserve to get paid as such.

Yeah I agree but blowing that Second Rounder on Slowquan really hurts when you think of who we could have added instead. Slowquan have stole money up to this point... the same could be said of Harry.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

One clarification here. Wise was a traditional restructure in the way that you mention and your point applies. Anderson was a pay reduction — basically, he agrees to a reduced salary or the team cuts him. Similar to what they did to Amendola and Dwayne Allen in the past. Anderson’s contract expires after. 2022. So the point is that only Wise is someone they really anticipate being on the team for the long term, not Anderson.

just for info here. This Wise restructure makes his dead cap hit lower in future seasons if he is cut right?

 

[Guts]

I would say mostly Tom right there the GOAT covered up a lot of deficiencies and that's a fact. We can't make a lot of mistakes going forward because we're going pay for them on field as we have seen after his departure.

Yup.

Need a little time for Mac to develop if he's the guy we are all hoping him to be and for that to happen the team needs to be strong around him. He won't be Tom (nobody will) but if he can be a top 10 QB we are in good shape.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

just for info here. This Wise restructure makes his dead cap hit lower in future seasons if he is cut right?

No, it’s the opposite. When base salary is converted to a signing bonus, it lowers the cap hit in the current year, and increases cap hits in future years - and therefore if he were cut in a future year, his dead money hit increases.

That’s why teams tend to be careful with these restructurings — ideally, you’d use it only for players that you don’t expect to be cut prior to the end of the contract. If you do it for everyone, you’ll wind up either 1) keeping players who stink, producing poorer on-field results, or 2) cutting them and taking large dead cap hits, leading to “cap hell” for that year as you can’t really maneuver. An increasing cap and very strong drafting can counterbalance that (part of how the Saints have done this while still staying competitive through the years).

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

No, it’s the opposite. When base salary is converted to a signing bonus, it lowers the cap hit in the current year, and increases cap hits in future years - and therefore if he were cut in a future year, his dead money hit increases.

That’s why teams tend to be careful with these restructurings — ideally, you’d use it only for players that you don’t expect to be cut prior to the end of the contract. If you do it for everyone, you’ll wind up either 1) keeping players who stink, producing poorer on-field results, or 2) cutting them and taking large dead cap hits, leading to “cap hell” for that year as you can’t really maneuver. An increasing cap and very strong drafting can counterbalance that (part of how the Saints have done this while still staying competitive through the years).

thank you i misread the post

 

[mgteich]

That leaves only $22.6M of available restructuring. Also, if we can a punter for $1.6M, we save another $2.5 of cap money, bring the total to $25M.

The draft will be interesting, of course. At least as interesting may be who we sign after the draft.

 

[venecol]

Hmm, I thought someone here said you couldn't borrow from future caps. Lol

 

[venecol]

 

[Sicilian]

Hmm, I thought someone here said you couldn't borrow from future caps. Lol

I don't think anyone ever said that (and if they did, they're wrong). The issue isn't that you can't borrow from future caps, it's that eventually every dollar you've committed counts against ONE of the caps. There's maneuverability but you eventually have to factor all the money in, unless the player is cut or traded. In other words, there's no way to pay less cap (at some point) while still having the same players.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Ladies and gentleman....the cap is crap!

 

[venecol]

I don't think anyone ever said that (and if they did, they're wrong). The issue isn't that you can't borrow from future caps, it's that eventually every dollar you've committed counts against ONE of the caps. There's maneuverability but you eventually have to factor all the money in, unless the player is cut or traded. In other words, there's no way to pay less cap (at some point) while still having the same players.

Oh, someone (you know who) definately said it (too lazy to look for quote). Yea, eventually [cash = cap hit], one way or the other. There's no getting around it.

 

[lancerman]

 

[Love The Drake]

Williams is never dropping to the Pats I have to let that pipe dream die.

 

[mgteich]

Williams is never dropping to the Pats I have to let that pipe dream die.

For your sake I hope that you are right. You would be much more upset if Williams were there at 21 and we drafted someone else or traded down.

 

[venecol]

 

[venecol]

 

[venecol]

 

[PatsFan2]

Williams is never dropping to the Pats I have to let that pipe dream die.

What if the Chiefs like the Bigger Drake London would be a different WR skill set wise for them. London could be a guy who works over the middle with Kelce for Mahomes.