NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION NFL Divisional playoffs discussion

[sb1]

Did I mention Erin Andrews was on tv wearing a leather outfit on Saturday?

 

[Triumph]

Also he only carried the ball only 16 times.

He was just getting warmed up.

Furthermore, TE Isaiah Likely was catching everything. Andrew's fumbled before dropping the 2 point conversion.

 

[Betterthanmost]

How many losses did the Cowboys take over the weekened? Quite a bit and it should tell Jerry his approach is not working on the field.

 

[Wozzy]

Michael Vick?

What a distasteful post.

In what way does Michael Vick compare to Lamar Jackson other than skin color?

Break down their actual passing numbers, it’s not even close. Lamar Jackson in a landslide.

How is this distasteful? I didn't compare their moral fiber, I compared their style of play.

Spare me the faux indignation. You disagree that's fine, save the skin color nonsense.

I've consistently called Patrick Mahomes the best QB in the NFL, even earlier this season when his stats maybe didn't reflect it. I've called CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels two of the best young QB's in the NFL... so you can take the inference of racism and blow it out your ass.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Bills/Chiefs has the colts patriots feel from the early yrs. Every yr people thought the colts were playing better and scary on offense etc ,only to be beaten at gilette. i am afraid next sunday will be similar

2-1 Patriots over Colts in postseason. Granted, the Patriots wins were largely not close. Colts win was controversial.

Difference is Manning wasn't good enough. Allen has been good enough. Colts losses were execution. Bulls is coaching imo.

Is any Bills fan confident with McDermott vs Reid?

 

[NFL Mystique]

How is this distasteful? I didn't compare their moral fiber, I compared their style of play.

Spare me the faux indignation. You disagree that's fine, save the skin color nonsense.

I've consistently called Patrick Mahomes the best QB in the NFL, even earlier this season when his stats maybe didn't reflect it. I've called CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels two of the best young QB's in the NFL... so you can take the inference of racism and blow it out your ass.

Styles are similar. Vick had a cannon arm and no football IQ. Jackson can at least read defenses.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Did I mention Erin Andrews was on tv wearing a leather outfit on Saturday?

TBH I was a little surprised the network let her wear that but then again I wasn't surprised.

 

[Wozzy]

Styles are similar. Vick had a cannon arm and no football IQ. Jackson can at least read defenses.

Not so different, both were similar height and size, had extreme speed, strong but inaccurate arms, were a one look and run QB. Lamar isn’t going through multiple reads.

Vick also played in a different era, tougher time to play QB. That is about the only difference in their style of play. Vicks best results came with Andy Reid as his coach, past his prime and after prison. Lamar has had a much better situation in Baltimore with Harbaugh, who tailored the offense around him, rather than expecting him to run a pro style offense like Vick was.

Baltimore has been one of the most talented teams in the NFL since Lamar arrived. He has no excuses. Sure Andrews made a blunder to end the game. Last year in the playoffs Lamar fumbled the ball, then threw an interception on back to back drives in the 4th quarter… when the mistakes arrived was the only difference between last year and this one. Two turnovers by Lamar seriously contributed to the loss.

 

[Grogan14]

There’s a difference between a guy like Brady or Mahomes who can thread a needle and hit tight window throws.

Versus a guy who needs scheme, to scramble around, who needs two 6’5” TE’s on the field so he has big targets… they limit the amount of times he throws because the more he throws the more likely there is to be turnovers. Jakobi Meyers has almost a perfect passer rating, I wouldn’t call him an accurate passer.

Lamar is the best overall qb in the league right now with Josh Allen a close second. Say what you want about him but he has worked hard to refine his game and has made himself into a very accurate and reliable passer.
You do not make it through a season withh over 400 passing attempt and only 4 interceptions without having great judgment and precision.
He will still be best wb next year with Allen and Daniels 2 and 3

 

[Wozzy]

Lamar is the best overall qb in the league right now with Josh Allen a close second. Say what you want about him but he has worked hard to refine his game and has made himself into a very accurate and reliable passer.
You do not make it through a season withh over 400 passing attempt and only 4 interceptions without having great judgment and precision.
He will still be best wb next year with Allen and Daniels 2 and 3

The playoffs are an entirely different brand of football. There's no tomato cans to fluff your stats up against, at least not past the wild card round.

Lamar is not the best overall QB in the league, Mahomes is.

I'd take a lot of QB's over Lamar, at least if my goal was to win rings. Passing and protecting the ball at QB is far more important than running the ball. Put a whole bunch of top QB's on Baltimore's roster and they have rings already.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

The playoffs are an entirely different brand of football. There's no tomato cans to fluff your stats up against, at least not past the wild card round.

Lamar is not the best overall QB in the league, Mahomes is.

I'd take a lot of QB's over Lamar, at least if my goal was to win rings. Passing and protecting the ball at QB is far more important than running the ball. Put a whole bunch of top QB's on Baltimore's roster and they have rings already.

Have you bumped Herbert out of your top 5 after his performance in Houston?

 

[TommyD4207]

It wasn't a great defensive play for the defender to swing and punch the ball out as the TE was turning toward the goalline? I give Bernard huge credit for that play. It was spectacular timing. If that was Rodney Harrison that did that for the Patriots, we'd remember it forever.

I'd put that up there with Troy Brown knocking the ball from the hands of a Chargers DB after Brady was intercepted.

He barely grazed the ball. Defenders punch at the ball on every play. No, it wasn't a great defensive play in the slightest.

 

[gobesmug]

Lamar is the best overall qb in the league right now with Josh Allen a close second. Say what you want about him but he has worked hard to refine his game and has made himself into a very accurate and reliable passer.
You do not make it through a season withh over 400 passing attempt and only 4 interceptions without having great judgment and precision.
He will still be best wb next year with Allen and Daniels 2 and 3

Mahomes is the best QB in the game today. Don't be like the fools who use to say Rodgers was the best QB over Brady

 

[upstater1]

He barely grazed the ball. Defenders punch at the ball on every play. No, it wasn't a great defensive play in the slightest.

??

Punched it right out:

 

[Grogan14]

Mahomes is the best QB in the game today. Don't be like the fools who use to say Rodgers was the best QB over Brady

Lamar and tye Ravens would have beaten the Chiefs this year. Mahomes does have the clutch gene but Lamar is a more versatile threat on every play

 

[gobesmug]

Lamar and tye Ravens would have beaten the Chiefs this year. Mahomes does have the clutch gene but Lamar is a more versatile threat on every play

If there is a final drive with 2 minutes to go, you pick Mahomes.

Lamar played great against the Bills yesterday and Andrews let him down. But Mahomes is the gold standard in the league today

 

[Ray Ray 717]

How is this distasteful? I didn't compare their moral fiber, I compared their style of play.

Spare me the faux indignation. You disagree that's fine, save the skin color nonsense.

I've consistently called Patrick Mahomes the best QB in the NFL, even earlier this season when his stats maybe didn't reflect it. I've called CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels two of the best young QB's in the NFL... so you can take the inference of racism and blow it out your ass.

Michael Vick’s best season of passing

3018 Yards, 21 TD 6 INT 100.2 passer rating

Compared to Lamar in 2024

4172 yards, 41 TD 4 INT 119.6 passer rating

Please dude just stop comparing them. They are not even in the same stratosphere as passers. There are levels to this game.

 

[Wozzy]

Have you bumped Herbert out of your top 5 after his performance in Houston?

He played like crap last game, I’d still take him over Lamar if that’s what you’re asking. His future is looking up with another year of Harbaugh.

 

[Wozzy]

Michael Vick’s best season of passing

3018 Yards, 21 TD 6 INT 100.2 passer rating

Compared to Lamar in 2024

4172 yards, 41 TD 4 INT 119.6 passer rating

Please dude just stop comparing them. They are not even in the same stratosphere as passers. There are levels to this game.

Two different eras of football, different game entirely.

 

[Patnation21]

I am off today and for the first time all season I turned on the morning NFL talk shows, and it just amazes me that after all these years of watching the Patriots, the commentators are still incapable of understanding what a gameplan is. Yes, the Ravens have a lot more talent, but the Bills had the better gameplan, and that's all that matters. They give so little credit to the strategy of the game, and the focus is all on the players.

Stop Henry, give the Ravens their yards, await turnovers and/or missed FGs, capitalize on your opportunities.

I listened to Jackson's PC and he still doesn't understand why they're failing every year. It's the gameplan.

The morning guys are still saying the Bills would lose 9 out of 10 to the Ravens.

It all sounds so familiar.

I heard that. They don't realize that Allen didn't need to do a lot because Lamar barfed all over the field in the first half, giving Buffalo a 10 point lead at half. Buffalo had the lead for 90% of the game. Buffalo didn't need to throw the ball all over the field and still won because of turnovers.