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WAPO is bending over backwards to try and appear "balanced." They are parsing words. They even admit that at the end of the article.

WaPo has never even so much as tried to appear balanced. That’s just how bad Biden was.

Biden wasn't wrong, in that there will be fewer opportunities to vote for working people, when working people need to be able to vote, which is either from home or at night.

The "9-5" and "in person" voting day has been outmoded for two decades and is being held on to in a desperate attempt to narrow participation and favor one tribe.

This just isn’t true at all. From a publisher who CNN worked with on a fact check. Also backed by PBS...


One of the biggest changes in the bill would expand early voting access for most counties, adding an additional mandatory Saturday and formally codifying Sunday voting hours as optional. Counties can have early voting open as long as 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., or 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. at minimum. If you live in a larger metropolitan county, you might not notice a change. For most other counties, you will have an extra weekend day, and your weekday early voting hours will likely be longer.

Most jobs will allow you either unpaid leave or paid leave, if you have it, to go vote within voting hours on Election Day. In the likely rare event that you are not able to, they’ve expanded early voting access. This is not unreasonable in the least. There’s also this...

Speaking of provisional ballots, out-of-precinct provisionals will not count anymore unless cast after 5 p.m. and a voter signs a statement saying they could not make it to their home precinct in time.

Further, the citizens of Georgia still have 11 weeks to request absentee ballots and, contrary to what you’ve probably heard on the news (that if someone else drops off your absentee ballot, they may be charged with a felony), there is a long list of people authorized to do it for you. This includes caregivers.

The sacred role of every state level government official who has a hand in voting is to ensure that every person in their state can vote, easily and with full information. That's the opposite of what's happening in Georgia and many other states, riding a false flag of "voting integrity" when research shows that voting integrity is at its highest point in history (with the possible exception of Russian digital interference).

And Georgia passed no such law restricting anyone from voting on a mass basis. That Biden actually compared this to Jim Crow is disgraceful.
 

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WaPo has never even so much as tried to appear balanced. That’s just how bad Biden was.



This just isn’t true at all. From a publisher who CNN worked with on a fact check. Also backed by PBS...




Most jobs will allow you either unpaid leave or paid leave, if you have it, to go vote within voting hours on Election Day. In the likely rare event that you are not able to, they’ve expanded early voting access. This is not unreasonable in the least. There’s also this...



Further, the citizens of Georgia still have 11 weeks to request absentee ballots and, contrary to what you’ve probably heard on the news (that if someone else drops off your absentee ballot, they may be charged with a felony), there is a long list of people authorized to do it for you. This includes caregivers.



And Georgia passed no such law restricting anyone from voting on a mass basis. That Biden actually compared this to Jim Crow is disgraceful.

So even though the Georgia elections had no problems to speak of, it was necessary to hammer out this kind of voting bill? why?

so you're saying this voting bill is better for everyone? how is it better for voters in Fulton Country?

The new law removes the Georgia secretary of state as the chair of the state elections board. - why?

The law says that each county can't have more than one drop box per early voting site or per 100,000 active registered voters, whichever number is smaller. This provision will dramatically reduce the number of drop boxes available in some large counties. Fulton County, for example, says it would go from 38 drop boxes in the November election to eight in the future. - why?

Under the new law, absentee ballots are allowed to be sent out to voters 29 days before an election, down from the previous 49 days before an election. Voters are allowed to request an absentee ballot a maximum of 78 days before the election, down from 180 days. And the applications have to be received by elections officials no later than 11 days before the election, a reduction from the previous effective deadline of four days before the election. - why?

The law makes it a misdemeanor for "any person" to give or offer "any money or gifts," including "food and drink," to any voter within a polling place, within 150 feet of the building housing a polling place, or "within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place." - why?
 

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So even though the Georgia elections had no problems to speak of, it was necessary to hammer out this kind of voting bill? why?

so you're saying this voting bill is better for everyone? how is it better for voters in Fulton Country?

The new law removes the Georgia secretary of state as the chair of the state elections board. - why?

The law says that each county can't have more than one drop box per early voting site or per 100,000 active registered voters, whichever number is smaller. This provision will dramatically reduce the number of drop boxes available in some large counties. Fulton County, for example, says it would go from 38 drop boxes in the November election to eight in the future. - why?

Under the new law, absentee ballots are allowed to be sent out to voters 29 days before an election, down from the previous 49 days before an election. Voters are allowed to request an absentee ballot a maximum of 78 days before the election, down from 180 days. And the applications have to be received by elections officials no later than 11 days before the election, a reduction from the previous effective deadline of four days before the election. - why?

The law makes it a misdemeanor for "any person" to give or offer "any money or gifts," including "food and drink," to any voter within a polling place, within 150 feet of the building housing a polling place, or "within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place." - why?

so you hve failed to articulate this bill was racially discriminatory...thanks for proving my point
 

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Did I say Stacy Abrams was the one at fault, moron? The people behind the decision to pull the game were all Democrat slobs.
you sound like uneducated Trump with the name calling. Grow the **** up
 

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it's easy to see......there's no explaining it to those who refuse to acknowledge.

in other words, nothing...

We now know the answer the question, “Where’s Hunter? ”...he was with his brother’s wife.

 
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you sound like uneducated Trump with the name calling. Grow the **** up
I agree these threads shouldn't devolve into name calling like they usually do...but the name calling was going both ways here so calling out one side of it is more of the problem than a solution.
 

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So even though the Georgia elections had no problems to speak of, it was necessary to hammer out this kind of voting bill? why?

Were you paying attention to how long it took Georgia to actually declare a winner? The article even touched on it being a problem...

Among complaints about the 2020 election was how long it took for some counties to release their final vote totals, how others missed batches of ballots the first time and general confusion about why the process is not over on election night.

A change local officials embrace is a section that allows them to begin processing, but not tabulating, absentee ballots starting two weeks before the election. There's extra incentive to do so, by way of a new requirement that counties count all of the ballots nonstop as soon as polls close and finish by 5 p.m. the next day or potentially face investigation.

Plus, local officials are required to post and report the total number of ballots cast on election day, during early voting, via absentee voting and provisional ballots, all by 10:00 p.m. on election night, essentially providing the public with a denominator to understand the total possible votes out there as results trickle in.

This was nothing new either. They knew there was a slew of issues during the primary. Back in July. They still weren’t fixed or addressed. Saying “they had no problems to speak of” is totally inaccurate.

so you're saying this voting bill is better for everyone? how is it better for voters in Fulton Country?

How is it worse? There’s 8 drop boxes in Fulton County, early voting is actually expanded, and Kemp didn’t sign a proposal into law to eliminate early voting on Sundays, which is when many church goers in Fulton have a “souls to the polls” drive after mass. There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about this with regard to Fulton County
The new law removes the Georgia secretary of state as the chair of the state elections board. - why?

Because the intent is to appoint a non-partisan chair. This happened because some counties had their **** together during both the primaries and the general election while others were a complete cluster****.

The law says that each county can't have more than one drop box per early voting site or per 100,000 active registered voters, whichever number is smaller. This provision will dramatically reduce the number of drop boxes available in some large counties. Fulton County, for example, says it would go from 38 drop boxes in the November election to eight in the future. - why?

That’s basically two for every congressional district and works out to one per every 82,294 people. Again, far from unreasonable. The real question you should be asking is why they’re no longer outside and in 24/7 operation at early voting sites.

Under the new law, absentee ballots are allowed to be sent out to voters 29 days before an election, down from the previous 49 days before an election. Voters are allowed to request an absentee ballot a maximum of 78 days before the election, down from 180 days. And the applications have to be received by elections officials no later than 11 days before the election, a reduction from the previous effective deadline of four days before the election. - why?

What is unreasonable or racist about this? 29 days before the election is plenty of time to send them out. 78 days before the election to request an absentee ballot is plenty of time. That’s over two and a half months. As for receiving them 11 days before they election? Again, this is not unreasonable. That’s in direct response to the amount of time after the election that it took them to declare a winner. Can you explain in detail why any of this is racist and why it only affects working class people and miniritiesas opposed to everyone who lives in Georgia?

The law makes it a misdemeanor for "any person" to give or offer "any money or gifts," including "food and drink," to any voter within a polling place, within 150 feet of the building housing a polling place, or "within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place." - why?

Who cares? Why would you want someone to approach someone else in line to offer money or gifts? What is this? Tammany Hall? And, realistically, how many times will such a thing happen? As for no food an drink, the law says nothing about anyone being unable to bring their own food and beverages while at polling locations. It also says: “Depending on the location, it is still possible for third-party groups to have food and water available — and it is possible for the lines to extend beyond 150 feet.”

So what’s the fuss here? How is this unreasonable and racist voter suppression?
 

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Were you paying attention to how long it took Georgia to actually declare a winner? The article even touched on it being a problem...

it's called getting it right....ideally people want an expedited result, but this was not a problem except if you call Trumps endless lies about ovter fraud a problem.

This was nothing new either. They knew there was a slew of issues during the primary. Back in July. They still weren’t fixed or addressed. Saying “they had no problems to speak of” is totally inaccurate.
based on what? the result?

How is it worse? There’s 8 drop boxes in Fulton County, early voting is actually expanded, and Kemp didn’t sign a proposal into law to eliminate early voting on Sundays, which is when many church goers in Fulton have a “souls to the polls” drive after mass. There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about this with regard to Fulton County
early voting is not expanded

Because the intent is to appoint a non-partisan chair. This happened because some counties had their **** together during both the primaries and the general election while others were a complete cluster****.
do you actually believe this? It just makes it easier to fix an outcome

That’s basically two for every congressional district and works out to one per every 82,294 people. Again, far from unreasonable. The real question you should be asking is why they’re no longer outside and in 24/7 operation at early voting sites.
What is unreasonable or racist about this? 29 days before the election is plenty of time to send them out. 78 days before the election to request an absentee ballot is plenty of time. That’s over two and a half months. As for receiving them 11 days before they election? Again, this is not unreasonable. That’s in direct response to the amount of time after the election that it took them to declare a winner. Can you explain in detail why any of this is racist and why it only affects working class people and miniritiesas opposed to everyone who lives in Georgia?

first off......I didn't call anything racist.....my guess people assume this because they know there's some of this in there. you kind of answer your own question that was never asked.

Who cares? Why would you want someone to approach someone else in line to offer money or gifts? What is this? Tammany Hall? And, realistically, how many times will such a thing happen? As for no food an drink, the law says nothing about anyone being unable to bring their own food and beverages while at polling locations. It also says: “Depending on the location, it is still possible for third-party groups to have food and water available — and it is possible for the lines to extend beyond 150 feet.”

So what’s the fuss here? How is this unreasonable and racist voter suppression?
that's funny.....nobody approaches lines offering money or gifts.....anyone knows that's not what this is about. you're kidding yourself or worse if you don't see these at attempts to unequally raise the level of inconvenience to those places the republican party sees as costing them republican wins.

this voting bill only helps fix things for republicans........I could see why republicans would not have a problem with it
 
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I agree these threads shouldn't devolve into name calling like they usually do...but the name calling was going both ways here so calling out one side of it is more of the problem than a solution.

of course you'll excuse the one who began the name calling as going both ways when you agree with their perspective. People's 'philosophies' here are so damned predictable.

so what's more of the problem than the solution? maybe you?
 

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in other words, nothing...

We now know the answer the question, “Where’s Hunter? ”...he was with his brother’s wife.


yup.........change directions......it's what your bunch does when you run out of words
 

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of course you'll excuse the one who began the name calling as going both ways when you agree with their perspective. People's 'philosophies' here are so damned predictable.

so what's more of the problem than the solution? maybe you?
Two things:

1. Where did I excuse any of the name calling? Answer: I didn't.

2. I intentionally engage with you as little as possible on this forum, because you're racist and you argue in bad faith, among other problems. No point. Spirited back and forth? Bring it on. What you bring? Hard pass.
 

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