Milton's fate at the end of preseason

[Force Zero Boomer]

I've said the same thing but in an opposite way: If Zappe isn't good enough to be QB#2 then Wolfe and Mayo have made a big mistake in not releasing him and getting someone who can be a "veteran backup QB".

Exactly. Whoever this guy is, he has to be ready to play, and if they are coaching up and giving reps to someone they believe is NOT that guy, it's inexplicable. You can't predict injuries, and with this OL, the safest assumption right now is that our QBs are at risk. If Zappe isn't the guy, CUT HIM and find someone better.

 

[mgteich]

I've said the same thing but in an opposite way: If Zappe isn't good enough to be QB#2 then Wolfe and Mayo have made a big mistake in not releasing him and getting someone who can be a "veteran backup QB".

I think that you presume that Maye won't be ready until late in the season.

Consider if the team is planning for him to start Game 5 and is prepared to start him earlier or bring in a veteran AT THE TIME if Brissett is injured.

Should we really sign another veteran just in case Brissette gets injured before the season starts? Or should we just continue with Zappe until the final cut, expecting to put him or some other veteran on the Practice Squad. The issue in signing a veteran now is that lots, lots more will be available after final cut.

HOWEVER, if Brissett has a long-term injury before Game One, the team will re-assess, and likely bring in a veteran immediately instead of waiting.

 

[patrickscribe]

Theory: Maye has a big arm. Zappe and Brissett don't. Maybe we need a second big arm as a backup and for practice reps so you don't have to change plays or approach.

 

[mgteich]

Theory: Maye has a big arm. Zappe and Brissett don't. Maybe we need a second big arm as a backup and for practice reps so you don't have to change plays or approach.

sounds like a perfect player for the Practice Squad
Sounds like a perfect potential 2025 #2 QB

Perhaps the team is choosing whether Milton is worth a roster spot as a developmental QB, also allowing us to elevate two players instead of one from the Practice Squad week, since he would be the emergency #3 QB if he is on the 53-man roster.

USING A ROSTER SPOT FOR OUR EMERGENCY #3 QB
doesn't really cost a roster spot since we seem to elevate the maximum number of Practice Squad layers each week.

 

[Bill Lee]

I think that you presume that Maye won't be ready until late in the season.

Consider if the team is planning for him to start Game 5 and is prepared to start him earlier or bring in a veteran AT THE TIME if Brissett is injured.

Should we really sign another veteran just in case Brissette gets injured before the season starts? Or should we just continue with Zappe until the final cut, expecting to put him or some other veteran on the Practice Squad. The issue in signing a veteran now is that lots, lots more will be available after final cut.

HOWEVER, if Brissett has a long-term injury before Game One, the team will re-assess, and likely bring in a veteran immediately instead of waiting.

I think we need one vet QB who can backup Brissette right from Game 1. My point is that if Zappe isn't that vet QB, they should have cut him and found someone who can do the job. It's too much to expect any of the remaining unsigned vet QBs to show up with a week's notice and lead the team.

 

[mgteich]

I think we need one vet QB who can backup Brissette right from Game 1. My point is that if Zappe isn't that vet QB, they should have cut him and found someone who can do the job. It's too much to expect any of the remaining unsigned vet QBs to show up with a week's notice and lead the team.

You would end up paying him for year unless you cut him before Game 1.

I think that team wants to see much more of Maye and probably start him much earlier than folks here would want.

Also, I think that there is a separate decision on Milton. The open question is whether they can see enough before the final cut to want to commit to develop him to be a potential #2 QB next year, or at worst at #3 and a #2 in 2026. I think that a developmental QB is worth a roster spot. If they don't think that he is worth a roster spot, then we should have a developmental QB on the Practice Squad, perhaps in addition to a veteran.

 

[moosekill]

Either 4 qbs or 3 and zappe is cut. Milton is making the team snd won’t be on the practice squad

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Should we really sign another veteran just in case Brissette gets injured before the season starts? Or should we just continue with Zappe until the final cut, expecting to put him or some other veteran on the Practice Squad. The issue in signing a veteran now is that lots, lots more will be available after final cut.

The risk of waiting to sign a vet not named Zappe late is that he likely won’t know the AVP system, which will lead to a dramatic culling of the playbook, unless he knows it already, but I bet that reduces the pool of candidates to a handful at best (and most likely zero or one).

I just can’t imagine them doing that. I don’t mind if they suck, but it can’t be self-inflicted suck, otherwise the players who are working so hard start to think this is a mismanaged fiasco, not a football team.

If you want someone other than the Zappinator, you’ve got to get him soon.

 

[patfanken]

I believe that the pats drafted Milton both as a QB AND an athlete. I know he said he JUST wanted to be a QB, but perhaps he will come to see by the end of the preseason that his best chance to be in the NFL is to become say a TE

OR, he can show enough progress at QB that it will make sense to make him the #3. Remember if he has even some success in PS, it will be likely he won't get through waivers.

So the options for Milton are these.

1. He sucks at QB, and he agrees to switch to another position and goes to the PS

2. He sucks a QB and they try to get him to the PS or cut him outright.

3. He shows enough progress that they keep him on the 53 knowing they'll lose him if they don't .

That's it those are the options

 

[Bill Lee]

You would end up paying him for year unless you cut him before Game 1.

Is that a problem? The team has lots of cap and lots of cash. The thing you don't want to be is da Jete after Ahole goes down and you have your thumb up your butt. Spending some cap/cash to get that done is worth doing, IMO.

Also, I think that there is a separate decision on Milton. The open question is whether they can see enough before the final cut to want to commit to develop him to be a potential #2 QB next year, or at worst at #3 and a #2 in 2026. I think that a developmental QB is worth a roster spot. If they don't think that he is worth a roster spot, then we should have a developmental QB on the Practice Squad, perhaps in addition to a veteran.

My vote was/is that Milton is gonna end up on the PS, and it's not the end of the world if someone else snags him since IMO it's likely that he's not one season away from being a replacement-level NFL starter. I would have liked to see the team find someone better than Zappe to be Brissette's backup but I think it's too late for that now. I agree we don't have to make a decision till cut-down day.

 

[mgteich]

Is that a problem? The team has lots of cap and lots of cash. The thing you don't want to be is da Jete after Ahole goes down and you have your thumb up your butt. Spending some cap/cash to get that done is worth doing, IMO.



My vote was/is that Milton is gonna end up on the PS, and it's not the end of the world if someone else snags him since IMO it's likely that he's not one season away from being a replacement-level NFL starter. I would have liked to see the team find someone better than Zappe to be Brissette's backup but I think it's too late for that now. I agree we don't have to make a decision till cut-down day.

The open question is whether Milton is a year away from being a backup QB, a #2. If he is, then we should keep him on the 52. We would hopefully be set at QB for 2025 and beyond with Maye and with Milton as our #2.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Most people think Milton will be on the 53-man roster to start the season. There's also the question of the Pats carrying 4 or 3 QBs, so I'll blend the two questions in this poll, because I think they are linked. I believe in the wisdom of the crowds.

Poll is invalid. Required poll options are missing.

 

[TheRainMaker]

The next Michael Bishop.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Poll is invalid. Required poll options are missing.

Let me know what changes you'd like. Maybe we'll have a do over in a few weeks or so.

 

[moosekill]

The next Michael Bishop.

Or the next Tom Brady, or somewhere in between. He will be on the roster this year.

 

[Simpelton]

I think Milton makes the team if only because he brings a skillset that Brissett and Maye really don't have, with his physical running game. The guy isn't Lamar but he has some ability to run with power and that could be useful in certain packages -- as well as giving the team a good scout QB against rushing QB teams. Brissett can do some change-of-pace rushing but it's not a big part of his game like it is for Milton.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Let me know what changes you'd like. Maybe we'll have a do over in a few week or so.

It’s mandatory. RLKAG

 

[Headcase]

Brady wasn’t a starter when he left college, and wasn’t a starter when he began his pro career.

Yet he ended up the GOAT.

How amazing is that?

Well he did start his last game, so you point is kinda moot, right?

 

[mister clyde]

How many times over the years has the fan base gone gaga over a big arm that had nothing else behind it? I'll be pleasantly surprised if this is not more of the same.

I agree, but I also think that he beats out Zappe as long as he shows some kind of promise. If QB1 and QB2 both go down and the team thinks Milton isn't an option, chances are you could sign Zappe back at that point if there wasn't another better option available.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

I think Milton makes the team if only because he brings a skillset that Brissett and Maye really don't have, with his physical running game. The guy isn't Lamar but he has some ability to run with power and that could be useful in certain packages -- as well as giving the team a good scout QB against rushing QB teams. Brissett can do some change-of-pace rushing but it's not a big part of his game like it is for Milton.

Someone was saying (can't remember who, I wish I could) that he's gun shy about running, despite his ability, due to an injury he sustained while on the run. I can't remember if there was supporting documentation for the claim, but I think there was.