Michael Floyd DUI Arrest Video Shows Him Passed Out at the Wheel (VIDEO)

[Tony2046]

Why would his BAC change any of the "supportive types" views.

I don't think I saw anyone say that what he did wasn't wrong, or that there shouldn't be heavy consequences for what he did. My issue was with those who felt that what he did should preclude him from being a member of the Patriots. He is paying a heavy price now, and that price is going to go up even further as the case is adjudicated, suspensions incur, and millions in FA money is lost.

My position has always been that as long as we haven't made having a DUI a reason for everyone to lose their job; and as long as Michael Floyd is a good player, teammate, and responsible citizen, I will welcome him with cautiously open arms. My question is, why wouldn't everyone?

Sure. But this went from a guy who was charged with a DUI to Super Extreme DUI. This went from could have been a tired guy who had a few beers sleeping at the wheel of his car to a guy who pounding drink after drink before or during driving a car. So there is a difference and one being easier to understand than the other. It's pretty easy to understand how some don't want anything to do with this guy and I'm not sure why you don't.

My position is that he is here and I hope he turns his life around and succeeds but I'm not going to disagree with those who feel otherwise because what he did was beyond stupid. It was reckless and without concern for other people's lives. I could go on but I think you get my point.

Hopefully you read that as being written in a respectful tone.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Sure. But this went from a guy who was charged with a DUI to Super Extreme DUI. This went from could have been a tired guy who had a few beers sleeping at the wheel of his car to a guy who pounding drink after drink before or during driving a car. So there is a difference and one being easier to understand than the other. It's pretty easy to understand how some don't want anything to do with this guy and I'm not sure why you don't.

My position is that he is here and I hope he turns his life around and succeeds but I'm not going to disagree with those who feel otherwise because what he did was beyond stupid. It was reckless and without concern for other people's lives. I could go on but I think you get my point.

Hopefully you read that as being written in a respectful tone.

I dont think anyone here condones Floyd's actions. Your post is reasonable

There is no question he did something incredibly selfish and stupid.

IMO, the man indisputably has a drinking problem. How far down that path he is I don't know.

 

[long distance]

Entire Brown's team is hitting a bar right now.

Did Collins show up with plastic bags on his hands again?

 

[VrabelJr]

I can't believe that "Super Extreme" is the modifier they came up with for people with high BAC. Who did they consult with when making that up? Mountain Dew?

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

wonder what his BAC was....and if a blood draw was done - specifically wondering if there were painkillers in his system as well (this is the NFL after all)

going to have to wade through a PR minefield at this point, but short term and long term from a football standpoint it is a solid move.....he COULD have some sort of impact this year, and it gives him a 'tryout' for signing next year.....the Pats just took a chance on him, his stock obviously plummets with a suspension looming and his reputation hurt.....could see a huge bounceback and incentive to sign a friendly deal with the Pats next year.....a one year prove it type contract in Foxboro also makes sense for both the organization and his career....assuming he bounces back personally; let's face it it could be a one time dumb decision (and yes it was incredibly dumb)......but purely looking at it from a football perspective, it could be a win-win

...2.1 over...classified "Super Extreme" level offense, punishable up to 45 days in jail.

 

[yukon cornelius]

Sure. But this went from a guy who was charged with a DUI to Super Extreme DUI. This went from could have been a tired guy who had a few beers sleeping at the wheel of his car to a guy who pounding drink after drink before or during driving a car. So there is a difference and one being easier to understand than the other. It's pretty easy to understand how some don't want anything to do with this guy and I'm not sure why you don't.

My position is that he is here and I hope he turns his life around and succeeds but I'm not going to disagree with those who feel otherwise because what he did was beyond stupid. It was reckless and without concern for other people's lives. I could go on but I think you get my point.

Hopefully you read that as being written in a respectful tone.

super extreme might be the dumbest thing i've ever heard.....impaired is impaired


so at this point you're 100% sure there were no drug interactions or other mitigating circumstances, just a guy who "pounded drink after drink"? you must have access to information I haven't seen yet.....

 

[Tuck]

He should never have submitted to the blood test. As others have pointed out he was not violent or belligerent towards the cops, just disoriented. Im sure he regrets it.

 

[RobertWeathers]

super extreme might be the dumbest thing i've ever heard.....impaired is impaired


so at this point you're 100% sure there were no drug interactions or other mitigating circumstances, just a guy who "pounded drink after drink"? you must have access to information I haven't seen yet.....

That's what I've been wondering. Besides the booze, was he on any pain meds that impacted his cognitive state?

Not sure it matters as he was still anebreated.

 

[neuronet]

I can't believe that "Super Extreme" is the modifier they came up with for people with high BAC. Who did they consult with when making that up? Mountain Dew?

There are fraternities where you get a Super Extereme DUI merit badge in Arizona.

 

[neuronet]

He should never have submitted to the blood test. As others have pointed out he was not violent or belligerent towards the cops, just disoriented. Im sure he regrets it.

Yes, that is strange. He was so drunk probably not entirely there. He should have called a lawyer immediately. These players with huge salaries, who do not have a lawyer on retainer...damn.

 

[Dagg]

I dont get the outrage over the video. What did people expect? I mean you have to be pretty zooted to pass out at a stop light...with the car running. These DUI/DWI videos always give the person in them a bad look.

 

[luuked]

The BAC level changes nothing for me..

He will most probably serve some jail time in the offseason and if we can sign him on the cheap -- which given the video and the probable sentence becomes more affordable -- he has an entire season to redeem himself/build his value back up.

I still think it's worth the PR hit..

 

[Brewskies]

So will he play Sunday and for the remainder of the Pats season?

 

[yukon cornelius]

That's what I've been wondering. Besides the booze, was he on any pain meds that impacted his cognitive state?

Not sure it matters as he was still anebreated.

it does matter, both in court and in the court of public opnion

if his lawyer comes out with proof that a trainer gave him pain meds for the flight, or he took a prescribed sleeping pill to help him relax because he's a bad flyer, it makes a huge difference

yes, he was still impaired - but all the sudden a beer or two on the flight sends him down a path he never intended to go


again, not making excuses - i don't know michael floyd, i just want to see him help the team if he's able.....it his quite possible he's just a dumbass athlete who makes bad decisions, but it could be a quasi-rational explanation, too......trying to stay level headed


if he ISN'T in a bad state, which it doesn't appear he is, he can help this team short term

and if he can pay his price, serve his time & his suspension, and walk the right path, he can help this team longer term of both parties want to go that route.....

that's really all i care about out of Floyd - I don't wish him ill will, but I'm not sending him a Christmas card, either......just think this signing was a good calculated risk, especially if it isn't just another Manziel situation

 

[luuked]

So will he play Sunday and for the remainder of the Pats season?

The court data is in the middle of February so there will be no suspension or anything during this season (including playoffs). Next season is a different story..

 

[luuked]

it does matter, both in court and in the court of public opnion

if his lawyer comes out with proof that a trainer gave him pain meds for the flight, or he took a prescribed sleeping pill to help him relax because he's a bad flyer, it makes a huge difference

yes, he was still impaired - but all the sudden a beer or two on the flight sends him down a path he never intended to go


again, not making excuses - i don't know michael floyd, i just want to see him help the team if he's able.....it his quite possible he's just a dumbass athlete who makes bad decisions, but it could be a quasi-rational explanation, too......trying to stay level headed


if he ISN'T in a bad state, which it doesn't appear he is, he can help this team short term

and if he can pay his price, serve his time & his suspension, and walk the right path, he can help this team longer term of both parties want to go that route.....

that's really all i care about out of Floyd - I don't wish him ill will, but I'm not sending him a Christmas card, either......just think this signing was a good calculated risk, especially if it isn't just another Manziel situation

I fully agree with what you are writing. Also Reiss just posted a piece working through the Floyd situation which is a good read (warning: its on ESPN).



Personally, I am happy with the kind of positions the Patriots have with domestic violence/guns being non-negotiable but other issues being "workable". Alan Branch is the poster child for this. We got him on the cheap and he has been an important part of this team since 2014.

Like you said.. it's up to Floyd..

 

[Tony2046]

super extreme might be the dumbest thing i've ever heard.....impaired is impaired


so at this point you're 100% sure there were no drug interactions or other mitigating circumstances, just a guy who "pounded drink after drink"? you must have access to information I haven't seen yet.....

.08 BAC impaired is not the same as .217 BAC impaired. Same argument as speeding at 80 mph is not the same as speeding at 143 mph. Not sure why you would debate that.

BAC is blood alcohol content. You can argue that he may or may not have had drugs in his system all you want but he had to drink enough alcohol to reach 0.217 BAC regardless of absorption or elimination rates. Was it 16 or 22 drinks?

He drank a lot of alcohol. Absorption rate arguments due to the presence of drugs does not change that and may make his decision to pound some drinks before getting in a car worse.

 

[RobertWeathers]

it does matter, both in court and in the court of public opnion

if his lawyer comes out with proof that a trainer gave him pain meds for the flight, or he took a prescribed sleeping pill to help him relax because he's a bad flyer, it makes a huge difference

yes, he was still impaired - but all the sudden a beer or two on the flight sends him down a path he never intended to go


again, not making excuses - i don't know michael floyd, i just want to see him help the team if he's able.....it his quite possible he's just a dumbass athlete who makes bad decisions, but it could be a quasi-rational explanation, too......trying to stay level headed


if he ISN'T in a bad state, which it doesn't appear he is, he can help this team short term

and if he can pay his price, serve his time & his suspension, and walk the right path, he can help this team longer term of both parties want to go that route.....

that's really all i care about out of Floyd - I don't wish him ill will, but I'm not sending him a Christmas card, either......just think this signing was a good calculated risk, especially if it isn't just another Manziel situation

My point is it doesn't matter b/c he was .217 BAC. As you said, he was still trashed driving around. Nothing changes that.

IMO it gets worse if he knowingly took pain medication and for being negligent drinking in excess.

 

[yukon cornelius]

My point is it doesn't matter b/c he was .217 BAC. As you said, he was still trashed driving around. Nothing changes that.

IMO it gets worse if he knowingly took pain medication and for being negligent drinking in excess.

unless no one told him of the effects......some of these athletes are incredibly sheltered and naive

again, just saying there could be more to the story


and some drugs slow/block the body's ability to metabolize alcohol.....it could have taken a lot less than normal to hit .217 if his body's ability to metabolize alcohol was impaired to begin with - we can, on the average, metabolize 1 drink per hour without being legally impaired....some a little more, depending on size & otjer factors

just for the sake of argument let's say he had something else in his system......he drank his normal 2-3 beers on the flight, only the effect was worse than he's used to because of that......now he's more impaired then he intended, and now his rational decision making is out the window


just don't know the full story yet.......

 

[RobertWeathers]

unless no one told him of the effects......some of these athletes are incredibly sheltered and naive

again, just saying there could be more to the story

and some drugs slow/block the body's ability to metabolize alcohol.....it could have taken a lot less than normal to hit .217 if his body's ability to metabolize alcohol was impaired to begin with - we can, on the average, metabolize 1 drink per hour without being legally impaired....some a little more, depending on size & otjer factors

just for the sake of argument let's say he had something else in his system......he drank his normal 2-3 beers on the flight, only the effect was worse than he's used to because of that......now he's more impaired then he intended, and now his rational decision making is out the window

just don't know the full story yet.......

Some of these athletes are clueless. They've been coddled their entire collegiate and professional lives and are trusting to a fault.

There certainly could be more to the story however I think this has run its course. Floyd needs to figure out how he will plea.