Mayo's Coaching Staff [Discuss Coaching Candidates Here!]

[raduray]

Yeah I get it, but I'm sure people said the Lions would never be able to attract quality coaches either. Things change.

Ditto the Texans.

 

[Aussie Patriot]

Drake Maye might be in play at the 3 spot

 

[UrbanCowboy]

I think anyone who desires the OC role would be interested.

something to be said for starting from scratch/clean slate. Somebody who enjoys the building challenge. Younger person trying to make their mark.

 

[Ross12]

I thought Waldron was a top OC this cycle.
The Bears hiring him could signal something other than drafting a new #1 QB...
- they have him do the magic he did for Geno, and try to reap all the investment into Fields.

A) Chicago takes MHJ at 1 to pair with Fields and DJ Moore, with Waldron getting more out of Fields
B) Chicago seeks a trade partner for the 1st overall pick - may be sensible for NE to trade up as Chicago could still get MHJ at 3 - cost might not be prohibitive in that situation
C) Chicago trades with a team much further down for a big bounty of picks - means NE is still just looking at Daniels or MHJ themselves again

 

[TommyD4207]

A) Chicago takes MHJ at 1 to pair with Fields and DJ Moore, with Waldron getting more out of Fields
B) Chicago seeks a trade partner for the 1st overall pick - may be sensible for NE to trade up as Chicago could still get MHJ at 3 - cost might not be prohibitive in that situation
C) Chicago trades with a team much further down for a big bounty of picks - means NE is still just looking at Daniels or MHJ themselves again

Personally, unless you're going up to 1 for the QB, and even then - the package to trade from 3 to 1 is just way too prohibitive. I like Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison a lot - I don't like them 3 first round picks a lot.

 

[Ross12]

Personally, unless you're going up to 1 for the QB, and even then - the package to trade from 3 to 1 is just way too prohibitive. I like Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison a lot - I don't like them 3 first round picks a lot.

Due to the value of MHJ I could see this lowering the cost of a trade up to 1, if that’s who Chicago specifically wants. For instance, they really want to draft him but know they can get some premium capital by trading down and still taking him, but also know that they can’t trade down any further than 3 to do so. So, that gives NE some leverage as well to lower the price, as if they don’t trade then Chicago will just take MHJ at 1 and NE loses no capital and still gets a top 2 QB.

I could see a scenario where the trade is only their 2025 first.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Due to the value of MHJ I could see this lowering the cost of a trade up to 1, if that’s who Chicago specifically wants. For instance, they really want to draft him but know they can get some premium capital by trading down and still taking him, but also know that they can’t trade down any further than 3 to do so. So, that gives NE some leverage as well to lower the price, as if they don’t trade then Chicago will just take MHJ at 1 and NE loses no capital and still gets a top 2 QB.

I could see a scenario where the trade is only their 2025 first.

Yeah, I think we're in good position for a trade with CHI for #1 if that's the route they go. It's hard to imagine them doing that in any scenario other than MHJ and there's absolutely no chance he make sit past AZ at #4. If they want to take MHJ then us or WAS are really their only chances to extract any extra draft capital for it.

They could opt to move down further on the draft board and forego the chance at MHJ in favor of extra capital, but if they do pass up on a QB they're gambling their whole future on Fields so feels like they'd prioritize landing the supposed generational prospect in MHJ over maximizing the picks coming back. It doesn't make sense to keep Fields and then try to build with more picks vs. getting him a guy who can help right now.

Considering the dynamics at play, I'm not even sure we'd have to give the '25 1st. I think CHI at #1 is in an either-or proposition. Either you take a new QB or you keep Fields and go MHJ. No one else is in play at #1 and I don't think trading back further than #3 and getting one of those 2 guys is a viable option either when you're already picking at #9 as well.

 

[Uptown]

 

[venecol]

Exactly this. His source are most certainly Bill guys and he knows once their gone he will become irrelevant

I'm thinking BoB and he's pissed he has no one left.

 

[venecol]

Nobody wants the New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator job

Jerod Mayo is trying to find an offensive coordinator, but the New England Patriots job is not appealing.

fansided.com

Hit piece against Mayo.

Ok which one of you IBWT posters is Wayne Gregoire? LMAO

 

[AQPE]

Those who want to leave need to shut up and do so or get with the program They all need to stop feeding crap to the media and spend their time on how to win more than 4 games next season, starting with replacing the entire offensive and special teams coaching staff.

Personally I don’t care who they pick as long as it’s Mayo‘s decision and not Bob, Jon, Elyse, Matt, or Eliot forcing coaches on him.

My only issue with Caley is that his TE group received ample attention through both draft and free agent capital with essentially nothing but soon-to-be free agent Hunter Henry to show for it. That’s not exactly an accomplishment that has me clamoring for his return to run the whole offense.

 

[venecol]

I'd assume they'd have a say in which QB to draft and which WRs to go after. The big appeal is that if you're a WR coach or a TE coach, being an OC is one step closer to being a HC. It might not be the most attractive OC job out there, but it's an open one.

That and the fact that you can only go but up from a 4-13 record. It's a great opportunity for coaches to show their stuff with a clean slate.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I don't think it's a stretch to say that this is an undesirable OC destination. Mayo has never coached or played anywhere else so he hasn't had the chance to build connections. A lot of times when a coach gets hired as HC from another team, he can bring guys over from that team on his non-dominant side of the ball. Mayo doesn't have that. You're coming into a spot where you have no familiarity with the guy who will be your boss.

Kraft, at least publicly, is expressing he wants a quick turnaround. He's talking about making the playoffs again, wanting to host and win playoff games, etc. The (spoiled) fanbase has the same attitude too. And the roster is a long way from that. No coach wants to come in where the fans/owner have unrealistic expectations. Sets you up to be a scapegoat.

There isn't a starting QB in place. Nothing is more important as an OC than marrying your scheme to your QB and anyone coming in is doing so with no idea who that is. We have a high pick, but we aren't in position to draft either of the top 2 prospects most likely. It's just an uncertain situation to come into.

Even outside of the QB, the OL is poor and 2 of the starters are FAs. The WR room sucks. The TE room is empty heading into FA. There's no talent to fall back on. You're coming into a completely barren offense with nothing but the hopes of who they might sign or who they might draft.

There's just no way to spin this as a desirable OC job. I'm not saying no one will take it, but it's burying our heads in the sand to pretend that of the openings for OCs league wide that we rank near the top of the list for the candidates that are in most demand.

 

[venecol]

If they had a choice to make on which QB to take at 3 maybe, but if they pre decide to take QB at 3 no matter what, I would not count that as a positive.

Who said that was the case?

 

[venecol]

I don't like Matt Groh. He was bragging about the Strange, Thornton and Strong picks. Not impressed. He's also the son of a FOB. He needs to go.

 

[venecol]

"It's all ME. It's all ME at this point except for a couple of other dudes who are just more of ME."

They're sitting in on the interviews but it's Mayo's choice. Pretty clear to me.

 

[Pape]

Everyone saying that the OC position in New England is "undesirable"?

only 32 OC positions in the nfl

New coach, willingness to spend money in free agency and high draft pick... all that and the chance to make your mark on a team that has know huge levels of success...

stepping in and turning around the offense for a big market team is the fast track to a Head coaching gig.

That is not an undesirable situation to be in... high pressure yes, but undesirable? nah.

 

[Ross12]

Everyone saying that the OC position in New England is "undesirable"?

only 32 OC positions in the nfl

New coach, willingness to spend money in free agency and high draft pick... all that and the chance to make your mark on a team that has know huge levels of success...

stepping in and turning around the offense for a big market team is the fast track to a Head coaching gig.

That is not an undesirable situation to be in... high pressure yes, but undesirable? nah.

High pick, lots of money going to be spent on offense, a high profile team, and a young defensive head coach who is going to lean on you to run the offense and will credit you when it goes well. If you are a coach who is looking to become an OC and has aspirations of becoming a HC, this seems like a good job for you.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Everyone saying that the OC position in New England is "undesirable"?

only 32 OC positions in the nfl

New coach, willingness to spend money in free agency and high draft pick... all that and the chance to make your mark on a team that has know huge levels of success...

stepping in and turning around the offense for a big market team is the fast track to a Head coaching gig.

That is not an undesirable situation to be in... high pressure yes, but undesirable? nah.

You're right that there are only 32 OC positions in the NFL but it's all relative. If you rank all 32 situations, it's insanity to suggest we rate anywhere but at or close to the bottom of those 32 situations. So if you're a top candidate, it's only logic that you're going to look towards some of the better situations first.

How is "new coach" actually a benefit to the new OC coming in? Wouldn't you rather someone with a track record of success to guide you? Yeah, we have cap space... because we have no one under contract because the roster is awful. Yeah we have a high draft pick... that we earned from being so terrible on offense to the point we were losing games with less than 10 points allowed (a historic feat). That's the group a new OC is signing on to manage.

I'm not saying no one will take this job. But it's hard to imagine anyone is looking at us as their top choice. It's probably inevitable that we're left with sloppy seconds or thirds and just need to hope that whoever we end up with is a great coach that deserves more hype than they're getting. Because the guys getting hype are likely going to have better options even among the limited number of them (only 32 league wide).

 

[Pape]

How is "new coach" actually a benefit to the new OC coming in?

answer this question, and you will have your answer. who (on the coaching staff) gets noticed if the O takes off?