Marsh describes Pats as "no fun"

[jah]

There's plenty of people that went up to their boss and said they were putting in their notice because they didn't like the culture fit in the company and were miserable and not enjoying themselves, so yeah in that sense. In the NFL you can't do that because teams own your rights. So realistically the only thing Marsh could have done was voice his concerns to his boss. I think if players were at will employees you'd see alot more mobility from squad to squad and players leaving different teams because they didn't like the fit. There'd be players who can't handle the Patriots bailing, and there likewise would be absolute workhorses obsessed with winning that would run to the Patriots.

Which makes me ponder...why the **** does the NFLPA repeatedly allow the employers to end the contract whenever they want but the player has no ability to quit? I don't want to hear that "overpaid" crap.

 

[lancerman]

Which makes me ponder...why the **** does the NFLPA repeatedly allow the employers to end the contract whenever they want but the player has no ability to quit? I don't want to hear that "overpaid" crap.

Because the NFLPA has a juggling act where the majority of it's membership at any given time are just stop gap and players who will have that 5 year or less average amount of time in the league and for those players their biggest concern is making as much money as humanly possible in a short period of time. For the longterm guys it's different, but they are the minority.

So the NFL always gets to come to the table with "we'll give you a bigger cut of the money, give us all these things" and you're full of a union of short term players who won't be in the league long enough to worry about all the things they are giving up for the money.

The NBA is different because you have smaller rosters and stars and mainstays have more sway in their union.

 

[Froob]

Who?

 

[farn]

Adult male "doesn't like job". News at 6.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Which makes me ponder...why the **** does the NFLPA repeatedly allow the employers to end the contract whenever they want but the player has no ability to quit? I don't want to hear that "overpaid" crap.

Signing bonus?

Regards,
Chris

 

[Steve102]

Like a lot of you, I can see that playing for the Patriots is probably not a lot of fun. You're expected to be a professional football player. Mature in how you handle your job, and the tasks that come with the job. (film, meetings, weights, ect) We've established that it's not a place when guys come to get their ego stroked. Do your job, do it well, and you will be rewarded. Do it poorly, and you will be coached harder than you ever have been in your life to be better. Can't hack it? There's plenty of other jobs in the NFL.

I am sure there's a lot of guys that hated it here. As a fan, I don't need them to love it. I just need them to win.

 

[Jimke]

I can see what Marsh is crying about. Starting with his first game, Marsh was not
able to control runs to his side of the field. How can a guy have fun when he is embarrassing himself on the field? The Patriots probably bear some of the blame
for misjudging his ability and making the trade.

 

[TB_Helmet]

Marsh released a video today saying he’s sorry if he hurt our feelings by saying the Patriots weren’t fun to play for. Link above.

I actually appreciate that. He hurt my feelings a lot when he was instrumental in our team having historically bad defenses early on. Nice to see an apology!

 

[Keep Up With The Joneses]

Who?

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Cassidy Mash

 

[Bill Lee]

49ers DE Cassius Marsh blasts his time with Patriots: 'It was B.S. things they were doing'

"They asked me to do a bunch of stuff that I had never done: covering running backs and receivers and basically almost never rushing the passer, which is what I did in playing defensive line," Marsh said.

I can’t believe he just glosses over this. Translation: the team asked me to develop into a more versatile, well-rounded defender for the sake of the overall group. How am I supposed to pad my stats doing this!?!?

People have posted about Chris Long's parting comments. Sure, Chris was a lot classier, but in the end, he too was saying he didn't like doing what the Pats wanted him to do:

This has zero to do with money, etc. It’s the right move in my heart because I want to get back to being the player I was before. I’m thankful for my role this year, but as a competitor, I’m itching to do what I do best.

Ref: Chris Long explains to Patriots fans why he won't re-sign with New England

He was more forthcoming on some of the podcasts he was on at the time.

Basically being a pure pass rusher is a lot of fun for those who have the ability to do it, and they'd rather find a role where they can be a pure pass rusher rather than having a lot of the responsibilities that the Pats scheme puts on to them.

I don't think it's about stats or money, I think it's about doing what you want to do.

Of course Marsh is not Chris Long. I think he would have been better off just STFU instead of pointing out the limitations in his game and his adversity to coaching to the entire league. Long's already been paid and Long has a ring so he can pick and choose. Marsh: not so much.

What an awful trade by BB. A 5th rounder for this stiff?

I don't think he was a 'stiff'. He obviously has some athletic skills. The Pats were hoping he'd accept coaching and become a more versatile player. It's hard to know how that's going to turn out in advance. They took a chance on him. It didn't work out. It happens.

Any negative commentary about the Patriots has more merit, than positive commentary... it is the way the sport reporting works... the sports reporters try to find any way to drive a wedge in this team...

I think it's more a case that there's 31.5 NFL team fan bases who eat up this kind of stuff.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Well I hated wathing him play in our defense so it’s fair both ways. Honestly he was never a fit...bad trade.

 

[Vindicate]

Setting the edge requires discipline. It's honestly the main defining aspect of the job. Discipline is never fun, I mean. That's what discipline is all about lol. You don't need discipline when something is always fun, the two don't mix.

Get over it Marsh, you *****. You aren't good and looked like an absolute ass whenever you tried to rush the passer anyway. You're bad at both. Quit trying to play fake up when all you're doing is shoring up a true aspect of your character: You don't want to do what's best for a team, you have no discipline, and you'll run at any given chance if you're not doing well.

The hilarious thing is, from the language, the Patriots even wanted to extend him.

I get Christ Long said the same thing, but he still kept his head forward, played to his contract, won a SB, learned some amazing aspects and then went and did his own thing. And thatst totally cool.

Marsh? F' outta here breh.

 

[BTTA]

Can't hack it? There's plenty of other jobs in the NFL.

That's just not true at all. There are only a few dozen jobs for any given position, most of them aren't available at any given time because of legal restrictions.

 

[Deus Irae]

There's no reason to be upset with this guy. He was/is very clear about how he has chosen to make a living: rushing the passer. He doesn't set the edge, he doesn't pass defend. Nor did he have an option to come to the Pats, because he didn't have an opportunity to pick his employer, they picked him. If he wanted to play NFL football, he had to come. Then they asked him to do something he doesn't feel competent at and, surprise, wasn't very good at it.

This entire situation would be different for me if he'd been a free agent and chosen the Pats as his employer.

That's just not true at all. There are only a few dozen jobs for any given position, most of them aren't available at any given time because of legal restrictions.

When you are in a field that values versatility, and you're a one-trick pony, you need to be very good at that one trick. Marsh has 9 sacks in 52 games, and is on his third team in 4 seasons.

I would suggest to you that, rather than worrying about having fun, and rather than confronting a coach for wanting him to do things outside of his comfort zone, the man should have been trying everything possible to increase his value to teams. And that includes keeping his mouth shut, as we know that NFL teams value that.

 

[RayClay]

It probably isn't fun. Spikes said he felt like a slave, Revis said he was worked so hard they better win a Super Bowl at the end, Reggie Wayne couldn't even get through training camp despite having a borderline Hall of Fame career, Moss pushed himself out of town.

Not everyone is made for it, but that's the price for being consistently successful.

Not sure why you are touting players with bad attitudes. Of course there are players who would rather lose on the Browns and collect pay checks. Not really sure what your point is. The guy only wanted to get sacks and allow anyone at all on his side to run the length of the field. Why is that an acceptable alternative?

Yes there are people willing to lose as long as they get paid. They get more vacation time to. Can't see why this is admirable or even acceptable.

 

[RayClay]

What an awful trade by BB. A 5th rounder for this stiff?

The pick is relatively irrelevant. Few 5th rounders have huge impact anyway. The problem is the scouting and evaluating. Even if he was picked up for free, a lot of time and coaching effort went into trying to mold losers into Patriots players because the team did not adequately address the position.

 

[lancerman]

Not sure why you are touting players with bad attitudes. Of course there are players who would rather lose on the Browns and collect pay checks. Not really sure what your point is. The guy only wanted to get sacks and allow anyone at all on his side to run the length of the field. Why is that an acceptable alternative?

Yes there are people willing to lose as long as they get paid. They get more vacation time to. Can't see why this is admirable or even acceptable.

Because nobody should get upset about what Marsh said. People are getting butthurt because he said something that could be viewed as critical of the team. Dude is allowed to feel how he feels about his time here. He didn't willingly choose to come here. He was traded. He was asked to play outside his skill set and struggled and got blasted and he didn't like the culture. There's nothing wrong with him leaving and saying he didn't like his time here.

He's not the only player to say it's difficult being here. Great players like Revis and Wayne who will end up in the HOF someday said similar things. It's not for everyone and that's okay.

There's way too much salt over a former player being critical of the team.

 

[RayClay]

Has anybody on this forum ever gone into their bosses’ office and say their job isn’t fun? That’s what an Xbox is for.

No, but I do tell him I don't want to do parts of my job I don't like. It's because I prefer a stress free environment. I pretty much only show up when a co-worker has a birthday these days, so I can get some free cake.

 

[RayClay]

Because nobody should get upset about what Marsh said. People are getting butthurt because he said something that could be viewed as critical of the team. Dude is allowed to feel how he feels about his time here. He didn't willingly choose to come here. He was traded. He was asked to play outside his skill set and struggled and got blasted and he didn't like the culture. There's nothing wrong with him leaving and saying he didn't like his time here.

He's not the only player to say it's difficult being here. Great players like Revis and Wayne who will end up in the HOF someday said similar things. It's not for everyone and that's okay.

There's way too much salt over a former player being critical of the team.

I couldn't care less what he says, he's a loser. I am upset at the lack of preparedness and evaluation that led to the team wasting their time on him and Ealy.

I actually enjoy comments like his, they are very comical. Patriots are so mean, they actually expect me to perform all the functions of the position to the best of my ability. Sounds like a three year old.