PATRIOTS NEWS Mandatory Minicamp 6/9-11

[Wozzy]

Thanks for making my point.
Welker was signed as an UDFA by San Diego and was cut. Picked up by Miami and had 29 rec his first year.
Amendola spend time on 2 teams Practice Squads before making an active roster, including his complete rookie year on the Cowboys PS.
So yes UDFAs can contribute, but the chances of ours contributing this year are historically remote, and will probably spend their whole year on the PS.
And I never said they were untalented, I said they went undrafted for a reason. They need development.
You're starting to enter Ring territory here where you take a statement made by a poster and interpret it the way you choose.

Ponder, Chism and Dippre all made the 53 man roster as rookies. That’s not historically remote. If one of the UDFA WR’s shines in preseason and absolutely stands out… there will be no hiding them on the practice squad.

 

[Wozzy]

Boutte is not special, you are right. But Boutte is not average or a JAG either. Boutte is the type of above average depth every team needs. If some team overpays Boutte in 2027 FA then the Pats have to let him go, but if it is a reasonable contract, sprinkle in some guaranteed money, and keep Boutte.

They’re paying Brown and Doubs, have to pay Gonzo and Maye eventually… you can’t pay everyone.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Ponder, Chism and Dippre all made the 53 man roster as rookies. That’s not historically remote. If one of the UDFA WR’s shines in preseason and absolutely stands out… there will be no hiding them on the practice squad.

The chances one of our UDFA WRs is a better NFL WR than Boutte in 2026 is historically remote.
Slice it any way you want, doesn't change the fact Boutte is an established NFL WR and our UDFA are projects with potential.
We didn't hide Chism on the PS last year, and his on-field game contributions were incredibly minimal.
You need quality, established depth on game day, not projects who might bee good 2-3 years down the road.
The funny thing is I hope our UDFAs do shine, and Boutte can be moved, but that is very far from a certainty.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Just like we gotta trust our management did their due diligence on AJ

How did I know you would go there?

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

How did I know you would go there?

I’m
nothing if not predictable

 

[Uptown]

In theaters now..

 

[mayoclinic]

We will extend mini-Maye for the outrageous sum of ... one million dollars!

 

[Uptown]

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Chism: 4.06/6.77
Douglas: 4.29/7.05

Despite literal decades of Patsfans love of Welker and Edelman, the reality is that neither the SS nor the 3 cone are correlated with WR success. You can have a score so poor that it is unlikely you will succeed, yes. There is a small correlation between 3 cone and draft position, which shows that scouts as well as draft nerds likely overvalue it.

There is not a strong predictive correlation between a college wr and nfl success. The strongest, which are still quite weak, are draft capital, college dominator score, age at dominator break out, and yards per route run.
Age, height and weight are semi-useful, and if you had to pick one metric, it should likely be the broad jump

 

[scott99]

Despite literal decades of Patsfans love of Welker and Edelman, the reality is that neither the SS nor the 3 cone are correlated with WR success. You can have a score so poor that it is unlikely you will succeed, yes. There is a small correlation between 3 cone and draft position, which shows that scouts as well as draft nerds likely overvalue it.

There is not a strong predictive correlation between a college wr and nfl success. The strongest, which are still quite weak, are draft capital, college dominator score, age at dominator break out, and yards per route run.
Age, height and weight are semi-useful, and if you had to pick one metric, it should likely be the broad jump

I think that back in the days of Welker, Edelman and Amendola, the SS and the 3 cone indeed correlated in WR success during the Brady/McDaniels era in the 2nd part of the dynasty. It predicated on quick, short area studs. Brady was like a point guard passing to the open guy, whether they were open 10 yards down the field or 5. And man was he a great point guard, just always finding the open man, who got open FAST.

The Maye/Mcdaniels era seems like a different kind of offense. Mcdaniels doesn’t seem to tailor his current offense, especially the slot position, like he did when he had Welker/Edelman/Amendola. So at this point in time, you might be correct about SS and 3 cone currently, but back in the day, it mattered A LOT.