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  1. Palm Beach Pats Fan

    Palm Beach Pats Fan Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    I was on a mobile device, so "Alt + 236" was not an option, with no number keypad

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    Wax Frog In the Starting Line-Up

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    My inner nerd got curious - it seems long-press holds a few surprises, including one hidden under the equal sign...



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    To unpack this:
    • I take "lock up" to mean to sign to a "long-term" deal.
    • I don't expect them to do that because I expect them to give him an RFA tender. If he keeps his nose clean next year then they might consider a longer deal.
    • The other reason I expect them to use an RFA tender is that RFA tenders are not guaranteed.
     
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    I think they'll tender him, see what the interest is for him and if it helps the cap situation, extend him.
     
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    I don't see that happening until November or December. The RFA first-round tender is about $4.5M. I can't imagine a long-term deal he'd take that would lower that number.
     
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    Why Nov/Dec? I'm thinking they slap him with the tender after they win the Super Bowl :p
     
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    But does he have good paws?
     
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    And?? What’s your point?

    Please don’t say Develon is “privileged”:p Their different experiences are irrelevant to anything. Ivy leaguers are just as susceptible to addiction as anyone else.

    I wasn’t comparing the two players. I’m saying discussing Gordon for doing his job is as random as discussing Devilin for doing his.

    I’m mostly happy that Josh seems to be on the right track. But it’s too early to get carried away and start gushing over him
     
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    If an addict switches to weed, they’re still acting like an addict.

    So hold that coffee man and drink up everyday! They don’t mind that
     
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    Yes, only approved stimulants please
     
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    Coffee is much more than a stimulant, it may be a key to a long life! It’s full of powerful antioxidants!

    Coffee linked to longer life, study says

    It’s also good for people with ADD. Which includes most recovering addicts. Much better than adderol
     
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    I agree. Adderall is trash
     
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    Yup, and people abuse it like it’s ok
     
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    As an addict in recovery I concur that weed will be just as deadly for me as smack. I do enjoy my coffee. I’m friends with the local roasters. It’s definitely an addiction but I never had to lie, cheat, or steal to buy that next cup.
     
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    I'm also a recovering addict and I would have no problem smoking cannabis and staying clean on everything else. I dont drink anymore because that causes me alot more tempting thoughts than anything else. I'm very pro cannabis even though I dont smoke because of my job. It's a truly underutilized natural medicine, that's why big pharma wants to keep it illegal. It would eliminate so much of their returns on anxiety, pain, nausea and depression medications that it would probably put alot of them out of business.
     
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    At the very least, I believe that it would take another 1–1.5 years of seeing him maintain his sobriety. The team is not going to offer him a longer term deal at this point in time, even if he’s on the right track at the moment. It’s just not going to happen, especially when they have the RFA tender in their pocket for the 2019 season.
     
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    Coffee has benefits but Coffee beans also contain glycophosphates which cause cancer.
     
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    I don’t agree that a long term deal is out of the question. They could use the RFA tender as a baseline and offer him a good long term deal that’s cap friendly, loaded with incentives, and terminable for cause with no dead money if he falls off the wagon. It would be good business to lock him up now at a good price if the downside protection is solid. His market value will only go up from here, as long as he stays clean. If the contract is structured so the team doesn’t take any hit if he doesn’t stay clean there’s no reason not to do it.

    Semi-facetious question: would an incentive clause requiring him to stay clean be “not likely to be earned”?
     
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    Wouldn't the Patriots protected by the league's policy, though? Gordon is down to his last strike, so wouldn't that mean his contract is voided/he doesn't get credit or paychecks if he's suspended again by the NFL rather than the team? I really don't know. I just don't know how they got stuck with Aaron Hernandez cap hit. I would have thought the league would suspend him indefinitely the moment he was arrested, but it is the NYJFL for a reason.

    Regardless, I think Bill looks at this as a 2018/19 coup. If Gordon is still sober and things are going great next season, he's likely going to get a lot more guaranteed money from another team, and frankly, that's his best option considering everything that's happened.
     

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