Mac Jones Through 2 Games (2021 vs 2022 vs 2023) By QTR and Redzone Totals

[sb1]

Im busy recruiting for your show.

Well finish up your work or you'll miss highlight reel plays from your binky the Zapster like this one!

Kid has a ROCKET arm. We all know he proved it in the combine and he sure showed it here again. Wow! Definitely better than Mac Jones and it's not close. All aboard the Zappy train!

 

[h0c2000]

I doubt that's his stat or his intentions. It's probably one from ESPN Stats and Info or, most likely, out of the league's database (his password probably still works).

Again, doubt he figured it would be that upsetting, considering how close it is. Although, if you want to get technical, Jones missed three games last season and only played a quarter of one of the ones Giardi is counting, so that cancels out one of the ones you mentioned of Brady's, so the gap is still pretty close.

Again, stats are for losers, points are most important, not my quote but BB's

offensive points per game league rank:
Year 1: 6
Year 2: 17
Year 3: 26

still early, but that's not progress. Sure blame everyone but Mac for this, the refs, the weather, yada yada yada.

 

[Triumph]

Well finish up your work or you'll miss highlight reel plays from your binky the Zapster like this one!

Kid has a ROCKET arm. We all know he proved it in the combine and he sure showed it here again. Wow! Definitely better than Mac Jones and it's not close. All aboard the Zappy train!

Hopefully I can get you a new car too.

 

[sb1]

Hopefully I can get you a new car too.

Don't be so triggered man it's just football talk. Nothing personal just business.

 

[Triumph]

Don't be so triggered man it's just football talk. Nothing personal just business.

Just tryin to help you out.

 

[Wozzy]

Again, stats are for losers, points are most important, not my quote but BB's

offensive points per game league rank:
Year 1: 6
Year 2: 17
Year 3: 26

still early, but that's not progress. Sure blame everyone but Mac for this, the refs, the weather, yada yada yada.

Points scored is an offensive stat... not a QB stat.

 

[Wozzy]

This is interesting, didn't expect his name to be ahead of Brady:

Brady sat his entire rookie season. Mac started his rookie season.

At the same age, through their first two seasons, Mac has started twice as many games.

 

[Rob0729]

Brady sat his entire rookie season. Mac started his rookie season.

At the same age, through their first two seasons, Mac has started twice as many games.

I could be wrong, but I don't think they count games not played. So Brady's rookie season didn't count and neither did the games Mac missed due to injuries. I could be wrong, but I think I may be right.

 

[Wozzy]

I could be wrong, but I don't think they count games not played. So Brady's rookie season didn't count and neither did the games Mac missed due to injuries. I could be wrong, but I think I may be right.

It’s certainly a different league now, and whether the fanboys want to hear it or not Tom was a game manager to start his career.

He was the quintessential “dink & dunk QB” who threw short passes that were an extension of the run game. So it wouldn’t surprise me if you were right.

 

[Guts]

You know after watching Fields and Wilson play QB yesterday I'll hold off on my Mac criticism.

 

[amfootball]

Still, two game difference I guess, but regardless, not exactly terrible by Jones. And I was looking at it and Brady was shockingly bad for the early part of 2003.





Similar stats against the Jets. Just funny to see that.

Again, not obviously comparing Brady to Mac because he won a Super Bowl, etc. But just noting that being patient is worth considering for the people who just want Mac gone without a viable replacement currently available.

To compare the early 00's to now is an effort in futility. Brady lead the league in TDs his second season with 28! Brady also went to the pro bowl in 2001 with 18 TDs. The league is light years different. Brady was in the top 3 of his peers back then.

 

[amfootball]

You know after watching Fields and Wilson play QB yesterday I'll hold off on my Mac criticism.

Why? I mean who cares how the other QBs are performing? It is looking like a bust of a draft in terms of the Qbs (I know it's still early) despite all the hype surrounding so many of them.

 

[Guts]

Why? I mean who cares how the other QBs are performing? It is looking like a bust of a draft in terms of the Qbs (I know it's still early) despite all the hype surrounding so many of them.

Because Mac is fine he won't win us games but he won't lose them either which gives the team a shot..It is what is is elite QBs are rare

 

[amfootball]

Because Mac is fine he won't win us games but he won't lose them either which gives the team a shot..It is what is is elite QBs are rare

If your QB can't win you games then there is no sense sticking with him unless being a middler team is your preference?

 

[Toofy]

If your QB can't win you games then there is no sense sticking with him unless being a middler team is your preference?

Herbert is deemed elite and he is not winning games consistently and he has Mike Williams , Keenan Allen and ekeler .
Hurts and tua are winning because their teams are stacked. let's see how they do 3-4 years down the line.
Josh Allen is playing at elite level with stefon diggs . And yet to win a ring yet .
Burrow played phenomenally but has 3 all pros in chase, Higgins and Boyd.

Mahomes only 1 to win 2 Superbowl and had cheat codes in hill and Kelce in 1 and kelce and refs in other.

Summarizing you need at least 1 other worldly or all pro talent outside of QB to play at elite level.

We just disregard the complete lack of talent on our side and expect Mac to elevate them.

Which talent has mahomes elevated without a bonfaide wr / TE 1 ?

I am not saying Mac is elite but we have not exactly surrounded him with talent despite on rookie contract to evaluate. We got him a hobbled JuJu and Jump ball Parker.

 

[amfootball]

Herbert is deemed elite and he is not winning games consistently and he has Mike Williams , Keenan Allen and ekeler .
Hurts and tua are winning because their teams are stacked. let's see how they do 3-4 years down the line.
Josh Allen is playing at elite level with stefon diggs . And yet to win a ring yet .
Burrow played phenomenally but has 3 all pros in chase, Higgins and Boyd.

Mahomes only 1 to win 2 Superbowl and had cheat codes in hill and Kelce in 1 and kelce and refs in other.

Summarizing you need at least 1 other worldly or all pro talent outside of QB to play at elite level.

We just disregard the complete lack of talent on our side and expect Mac to elevate them.

Which talent has mahomes elevated without a bonfaide wr / TE 1 ?

I am not saying Mac is elite but we have not exactly surrounded him with talent despite on rookie contract to evaluate. We got him a hobbled JuJu and Jump ball Parker.

As long as Bill is the GM, Mac is never going to have elite talent at the skill positions surrounding him.

 

[Ian]

Again, stats are for losers, points are most important, not my quote but BB's

offensive points per game league rank:
Year 1: 6
Year 2: 17
Year 3: 26

still early, but that's not progress. Sure blame everyone but Mac for this, the refs, the weather, yada yada yada.

I don't get what you're all fired up about. Giardi says one good thing about Mac on a relatively innocuous stat, and you hopped all over multiple things, including the fact his source included two games of Brady's you disagree with. You've fired back two relatively angry posts, which more or less reveals what you're really upset about - Mac.

Again, I get it. I've at least unearthed with several people that they're clearly frustrated that Jones isn't Brady. And I say that in terms of him not having the same ability as Brady so far in terms of closing out games, finishing comebacks, etc. Brady was a killer, and he could get it done.

I understand it, and I even wrote about Mac not getting that done. But still, nobody is going to be that guy ever again. Unless lightning strikes twice, which I doubt. I don't recall anyone outside of the 49ers and maybe Green Bay where a team got lucky on their next guy immediately. Although I dislike Rodgers, but that's another story.

Either way, that's the world we live in now. We have who we have. It stinks, but we're going to have to lower our expectations.

As some have said, they'll ignore that and continue to demand excellence. That's cool, I'm not telling people how to think. People can demand it, but to expect it is just not realistic. It's just going to result in more frustration and disappointment.

At the end of the day, we're all just going to have to let this year play out and hope for the best. As I've said, kicking Jones to the curb means starting over, which will waste more seasons because Brady is among the few who ran the table in his first year. The next guy will probably be like Mac. He'll go 10-7, and probably take a step back in his sophomore season, likely for different reasons. That's why year three is generally key with most QBs.

The next guy will likely also have new problems and new frustrations...that whole "devil you know" thing. I'd prefer to root for the current kid to succeed - for at least this season - so that we hopefully avoid that adventure and the years lost.

The other issue is those guys don't grow on trees. We can't give up the farm to a team that will then have to find their own next guy, which given how important that position with, likely won't do it.

And the draft - as we've seen - is a crapshoot. Even the top guys don't always pan out. I mean, so far, Lawrence and Jones are the two best out of the top five quarterbacks taken that year. It's certainly not an exact science.

In the end, if Jones stinks or doesn't do anything amazing all season, they won't pick up his option, and he'll either be gone after next year, or they'll move on from him this offseason and potentially start someone else next season - whoever that may be. But we kind of need this year to end well, especially given the defense they have.

It would suck to see them waste this current group, so I'm trying to remain patient and give him and O'Brien a chance while hoping they can get it together. Especially after they've played two out of three games in the rain. Definitely glad Sunday is in a dome, and that factor will hopefully at least be off the table.

 

[Ian]

To compare the early 00's to now is an effort in futility. Brady lead the league in TDs his second season with 28! Brady also went to the pro bowl in 2001 with 18 TDs. The league is light years different. Brady was in the top 3 of his peers back then.

I was looking at his interceptions, along with the fact his stat line against the Jets was similar to Mac's against New York, which stood out and I thought was funny. But it wasn't a great start, he threw multiple picks twice over the first 4 games that year.

Obviously, it's a reminder of how little that meant. He got it together and went on a run where he won 12 straight to finish the regular season and then won the next three, with the last one being Super Bowl title #2

Mac's not Brady, but it's a reminder not to judge the entire year on the first three weeks of the season.

 

[Ian]

Brady sat his entire rookie season. Mac started his rookie season.

At the same age, through their first two seasons, Mac has started twice as many games.

Obviously, I'm aware of that (I was there every week in 2000 during Brady's rookie year - he was super skinny). The stats Giardi referred to are based on games played, not games spent on the roster.

 

[Ian]

Brady sat his entire rookie season. Mac started his rookie season.

At the same age, through their first two seasons, Mac has started twice as many games.

Still crazy, though, that he surpassed everyone and was #2 on the depth chart by Thanksgiving as a rookie. Feels like people forget about that. It's one thing to beat out one guy. He beat out two. Pretty cool.