Mac Jones Through 2 Games (2021 vs 2022 vs 2023) By QTR and Redzone Totals

[Tunescribe]

Basically the nightmare scenario if they sign Jones to a $175M extension.

"Nightmare scenario." Yeah, as anxious as you are to crap on the kid a lot of shoes must drop before it's decided he IS the guy and what he actually is worth. The salary cap continues to go up so what seems an outrageous figure now might not turn out to be. Anyway, I prefer to maintain a positive outlook realizing that an established successor to Tom Brady is inevitable.

 

[lancerman]

"Nightmare scenario." Yeah, as anxious as you are to crap on the kid a lot of shoes must drop before it's decided he IS the guy and what he actually is worth. The salary cap continues to go up so what seems an outrageous figure now might not turn out to be. Anyway, I prefer to maintain a positive outlook realizing that an established successor to Tom Brady is inevitable.

People always ignore this. Most deals that seem absurd end up being steals by the end because they did it early.

I remember when everyone hear was talking about how the Chiefs pretty much threw a treasure chest at Mahomes with his contract extension and how it would bite them later. He's not even halfway through it and they just restructured it because it was below market value for his level already.

Not making a judgment on Mac getting the option at all, but people here get way too hyperbolic when they see a big number. The option usually evens out.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

"Nightmare scenario." Yeah, as anxious as you are to crap on the kid a lot of shoes must drop before it's decided he IS the guy and what he actually is worth. The salary cap continues to go up so what seems an outrageous figure now might not turn out to be. Anyway, I prefer to maintain a positive outlook realizing that an established successor to Tom Brady is inevitable.

I’m basing it off Daniel Jones, 4 yrs, 160M, as a benchmark. I think that’s reasonable, the market will be about that for a franchise/non elite QB coming off a rookie deal.

 

[goheels22002]

Posted this a few minutes ago on Twitter and figured I'd share it here:


Mac Jones Through 2 Games (2021 vs 2022 vs 2023)
Totals (By QTR)
and RedZone)

2021: Total: 51/69 (73.9%) 467yds 1 TD
Q1: 14/15 (93.3%) 106yds
Q2: 17/25 (68%) 169yds 1TD
Q3: 10/14 (71.4%) 138yds
Q4: 10/15 (66.7%) 54yds
Redzone 3/6 (50%) 13yds 1TD

2022: Total: 42/65 (64.6%) 465yds 2TDs 2INTs
Q1: 11/16 (68.8%) 102yds 2 INTs
Q2: 8/13 (61.5%) 128yds 1 TD
Q3: 14/19 (73.7%) 123yds 1TD
Q4: 9/17 (52.9%) 112yds
Redzone 3/5 (60%) 13yds 1TD

2023: Total: 66/96 (68.8%) 547yds 4TDs 2INTs
Q1: 11/16 (68.8%) 67yds 1 INT
Q2: 20/26 (76.9%) 170yds 2 TDs
Q3: 10/16 (62.5%) 68yds 1 INT
Q4: 25/38 (65.8%) 242yds 2 TDs
Redzone: 5/7 (71.4%) 56yds 4TDs

He's actually off to his best start in his three seasons, statistically.

Just think what those numbers might look like if he had a healthy, competent starting offensive line keeping defenders out of his backfield.

 

[goheels22002]

Hes on pace to throw for 4500 yards in 5 and 10 yard increments.

Whoopee, make a banner.

If he had a healthy, competent starting offensive line protecting him, the YPC and YAC would improve.

 

[amfootball]

Winning is a function of many things. Patrick Mahomes put up one of the all time bad QB performances in a Super Bowl because his offensive line was decimated. Nobody is going to say he sucks. Just a couple of weeks ago we saw him look mediocre without Kelce. Tom Brady struggled here when the offense started having talent issues, people on this board said he declined, he probed that it was the talent when he left. Allen went from being mediocre and nearly losing his job to a winner and being seen as a premier QB when they got him some talent. Tua got talent and is now putting wins together. On the other end, Drew Brees was playing out of his mind for 3 straight years and his team still had losing records because the defense sucked.

Idk where this idea came about that if you have a good QB they are going to win regardless of the **** team you put around them.

We’re not talking about one game or even one season. It’s been 2+ seasons now and he has a losing record and has yet to display the clutch gene.

 

[Triumph]

Burrow, Herbert and Cousins are all 0-2.

Football is a team game.

Learn the game troll.

Woozy

Again, what do those promising QBs have to do with Corky Mac? Pointing your roach stained finger at other QBs does not make your boy Corky better.

Lay off the gin and juice.

 

[Triumph]

If he had a healthy, competent starting offensive line protecting him, the YPC and YAC would improve.

Not convinced because Alabama has a weak arm.

Look what happened when he attempted his longest pass of the Miami game. INT. If the pass has the distance the ball is normally slowing down.

There is a video on youtube of every Corky 2022 INT. He had good blocking on every INT.

 

[Triumph]

Basically the nightmare scenario if they sign Jones to a $175M extension.

We will know for sure that BB and Kraft have gone senile.

 

[Tunescribe]

I’m basing it off Daniel Jones, 4 yrs, 160M, as a benchmark. I think that’s reasonable, the market will be about that for a franchise/non elite QB coming off a rookie deal.

OK, if you consider that a reasonable sum why did you call it a "nightmare scenario"?

 

[lancerman]

We’re not talking about one game or even one season. It’s been 2+ seasons now and he has a losing record and has yet to display the clutch gene.

How many game winning drives ended like week 1 this year where a WR got a pass they should catch and couldn't pull it in or like the Bills game last year where they got in the redzone and an RB made a stupid play and fumbled? The other players matter with the "clutch gene". Tom Brady wasn't going to make those plays go different. In fact, we know Tom Brady just packed up and left when he saw what he was working with. So idk why a year 3 QB with 3 different OC's and one of the worst offensive casts in the NFL is going to be clutch.

 

[Tunescribe]

How many game winning drives ended like week 1 this year where a WR got a pass they should catch and couldn't pull it in or like the Bills game last year where they got in the redzone and an RB made a stupid play and fumbled? The other players matter with the "clutch gene". Tom Brady wasn't going to make those plays go different. In fact, we know Tom Brady just packed up and left when he saw what he was working with. So idk why a year 3 QB with 3 different OC's and one of the worst offensive casts in the NFL is going to be clutch.

It never ceases to amaze me how the Tampa Bay ghetto refugees flock to Mac-oriented threads intent on disparagement. The very notion of a quarterback succeeding under BB post-Brady gives them nightmares. It truly is pathetic.

 

[borg]

After watching San Fran for the 1st time this year, two things are very clear:

1) Mac does not have weakest arm in the starting QB ranks, Mr. Irrelevant wins that honor in a landslide. Maybe his current pop-gun arm is the result of his injury/offseason surgery and he hasn't fully healed. Regardless, he was soft tossing, inaccurate, late on throws, and chucking hospital balls on every crossing pattern and it's a miracle no receiver was stretchered off. Purdy is lucky his shyte throws didn't lead to 4 INTs.

2) Premium talent sure can compensate for subpar QB play.
Deebo and Kittle not only create separation and make fantastic catches, they're both near impossible to bring down, and create huge YAC, often carrying overmatched tacklers for extra chunks of yardage.......PLAY AFTER PLAY AFTER PLAY.
And then there is McCaffrey who earns every $$$ he gets paid. What a talent.
Throw in Aiyuk who is extremely talented and earns 5+ yds of YAC on average.

Note: Samuels drafted in 2nd, Kittle in the 5th

 

[amfootball]

How many game winning drives ended like week 1 this year where a WR got a pass they should catch and couldn't pull it in or like the Bills game last year where they got in the redzone and an RB made a stupid play and fumbled? The other players matter with the "clutch gene". Tom Brady wasn't going to make those plays go different. In fact, we know Tom Brady just packed up and left when he saw what he was working with. So idk why a year 3 QB with 3 different OC's and one of the worst offensive casts in the NFL is going to be clutch.

I'm not talking about week one. I'm talking about 33 games spanning 2+ seasons. The guy is 16-17 (16-18 if you count the Buffalo playoff blow out). He has exactly one fourth quarter comeback vs Houston in 2021. As Parcells said, "you are what your record says you are."

 

[amfootball]

After watching San Fran for the 1st time this year, two things are very clear:

1) Mac does not have weakest arm in the starting QB ranks, Mr. Irrelevant wins that honor in a landslide. Maybe his current pop-gun arm is the result of his injury/offseason surgery and he hasn't fully healed. Regardless, he was soft tossing, inaccurate, late on throws, and chucking hospital balls on every crossing pattern and it's a miracle no receiver was stretchered off. Purdy is lucky his shyte throws didn't lead to 4 INTs.

2) Premium talent sure can compensate for subpar QB play.
Deebo and Kittle not only create separation and make fantastic catches, they're both near impossible to bring down, and create huge YAC, often carrying overmatched tacklers for extra chunks of yardage.......PLAY AFTER PLAY AFTER PLAY.
And then there is McCaffrey who earns every $$$ he gets paid. What a talent.
Throw in Aiyuk who is extremely talented and earns 5+ yds of YAC on average.

Note: Samuels drafted in 2nd, Kittle in the 5th

We must have watched two different games. Purdy was fantastic last night especially vs the blitz. He dropped back 39 times and the Giants blitzed him on 33 of those, a blitz rate of 84.6 percent. Purdy made them pay, completing 20 of 31 passes for 247 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions.

 

[archstanton543]

I'm not talking about week one. I'm talking about 33 games spanning 2+ seasons. The guy is 16-17 (16-18 if you count the Buffalo playoff blow out). He has exactly one fourth quarter comeback vs Houston in 2021. As Parcells said, "you are what your record says you are."

W's and L's are team stats. Parcells said that in the context of where you are as a team.

 

[amfootball]

W's and L's are team stats. Parcells said that in the context of where you are as a team.

W/L record is also a QB stat.

 

[Steve102]

all i see is a guy too slow to get out of the way. He saw them coming. couldnt get out of his own way.

C'mon man. That's an unblocked rusher. Every QB in the league is getting sacked there. I get you're out on Mac, but that's not on him. Guys gotta at least get a hat on a free rusher.

 

[Steve102]

After watching San Fran for the 1st time this year, two things are very clear:

1) Mac does not have weakest arm in the starting QB ranks, Mr. Irrelevant wins that honor in a landslide. Maybe his current pop-gun arm is the result of his injury/offseason surgery and he hasn't fully healed. Regardless, he was soft tossing, inaccurate, late on throws, and chucking hospital balls on every crossing pattern and it's a miracle no receiver was stretchered off. Purdy is lucky his shyte throws didn't lead to 4 INTs.

2) Premium talent sure can compensate for subpar QB play.
Deebo and Kittle not only create separation and make fantastic catches, they're both near impossible to bring down, and create huge YAC, often carrying overmatched tacklers for extra chunks of yardage.......PLAY AFTER PLAY AFTER PLAY.
And then there is McCaffrey who earns every $$$ he gets paid. What a talent.
Throw in Aiyuk who is extremely talented and earns 5+ yds of YAC on average.

Note: Samuels drafted in 2nd, Kittle in the 5th

Agreeing on McCaffery. He's at another level, and that stresses defenses.

 

[Toofy]

After watching San Fran for the 1st time this year, two things are very clear:

1) Mac does not have weakest arm in the starting QB ranks, Mr. Irrelevant wins that honor in a landslide. Maybe his current pop-gun arm is the result of his injury/offseason surgery and he hasn't fully healed. Regardless, he was soft tossing, inaccurate, late on throws, and chucking hospital balls on every crossing pattern and it's a miracle no receiver was stretchered off. Purdy is lucky his shyte throws didn't lead to 4 INTs.

2) Premium talent sure can compensate for subpar QB play.
Deebo and Kittle not only create separation and make fantastic catches, they're both near impossible to bring down, and create huge YAC, often carrying overmatched tacklers for extra chunks of yardage.......PLAY AFTER PLAY AFTER PLAY.
And then there is McCaffrey who earns every $$$ he gets paid. What a talent.
Throw in Aiyuk who is extremely talented and earns 5+ yds of YAC on average.

Note: Samuels drafted in 2nd, Kittle in the 5th

Deebo - Drafted after n keal Harry and joejuan I guess .