Let's Put An End To the Maroney Madness(X3 Merged)

[PlainOldEd]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

He's got a 4.2 ypc average, it's not his fault they don't run.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Yes, lets get a chicken legged RB similar to Reggie Bush.. BTW anyone notice that Bush just went on the IR with a knee injury....

Would that be Reggie "3.7 ypc" Bush? The #1 running back taken in the Maroney draft? The guy who's not only got a lesser ypc than Maroney, but also has fewer gross yards rushing?

Would that be the same running back who's played the Kevin Faulk role for the Saints and can't seem to stay healthy all of the sudden?


I'd love to know just how high NSA, Danny88 and the rest of the clowns were on the mighty Reggie when he was in the draft. I'm sure that each and every one of them were positive that he was going to be a bust.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

He's got a 4.2 ypc average, it's not his fault they don't run.

So doesent Kenton Keith from the dolts. He was some jag they pulled of the street. The point is not to bash Maroneys' ypc. The point is we spent a first round choice on a guy who had not lived up to his expectations. Faulk has a nice ypc to. So didnt Sammy. Are they first round draft choices?

If I told you Maroney would be what he is after 31 NFL games the day he was drafted you would all call me a hater and crazy.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Would that be Reggie "3.7 ypc" Bush? The #1 running back taken in the Maroney draft? The guy who's not only got a lesser ypc than Maroney, but also has fewer gross yards rushing?

Would that be the same running back who's played the Kevin Faulk role for the Saints and can't seem to stay healthy all of the sudden?


I'd love to know just how high NSA, Danny88 and the rest of the clowns were on the mighty Reggie when he was in the draft. I'm sure that each and every one of them were positive that he was going to be a bust.

Making things up again I see. I dont want to draft Mcfadden nor do I like Reggie 190 lb Bush.

I want to draft Stewart from Oregon in the second round. 5'10 230 lbs.


Nice try though.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Making things up again I see. I dont want to draft Mcfadden nor do I like Reggie 190 lb Bush.

I want to draft Stewart from Oregon in the second round. 5'10 230 lbs.


Nice try though.

Learn to read. My post didn't make anything up. However, you keep making yourself look like an ass. You've become expert at it.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Learn to read. My post didn't make anything up. However, you keep making yourself look like an ass. You've become expert at it.

I'd love to know just how high NSA, Danny88 and the rest of the clowns were on the mighty Reggie when he was in the draft. I'm sure that each and every one of them were positive that he was going to be a bust.

You insinuated I was a fan of Bush. Said you would love to see how I felt about Reggie. Fact is I have never said a word about Reggie and or Mcfadden.

I also do not want to draft Mcfadden.

Stop making things up. After the season we will see who was right about slo mo.

I would love to see how you felt about Bethal Johnson! Hes going to develope!!

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

I'd love to know just how high NSA, Danny88 and the rest of the clowns were on the mighty Reggie when he was in the draft. I'm sure that each and every one of them were positive that he was going to be a bust.


You insinuated I was a fan of Bush. Said you would love to see how I felt about Reggie. Never said that.

I also do not want to draft Mcfadden.

Stop making things up.

Again, I didnt' make anything up. You don't seem to grasp the English language any better than you grasp football. I didn't insinuate that you were a fan of Bush, and I would love to see how you felt about Reggie. As I said, I'm sure that you were positive that he was going to be a bust. You were positive about that, right? I could probably find oodles of posts about that all over the internet, right?

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Again, I didnt' make anything up. You don't seem to grasp the English language any better than you grasp football. I didn't insinuate that you were a fan of Bush, and I would love to see how you felt about Reggie. As I said, I'm sure that you were positive that he was going to be a bust. You were positive about that, right? I could probably find oodles of posts about that all over the internet, right?

I was sure he was drafted way to high. the guy is a total bust. He is Kevin Faulk but not as effective.


Maroney was drafted to high to. I didnt want to draft him either. I liked Barber better!

 

[stcjones]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Number One defense against the run.... maybe, just maybe, another team has enough talent in one area to effect how the Patriots play. You guys act like the Pats should be able to do anything they want, whenever they want. The run blocking was horrendous when they tried it mostly because Pitt was blitzing so many guys on nearly every play that they just jammed up the blockers - show me some plays where there were big holes LoMo missed.

As BB says, everyone could improve and LoMo's on that list for certain. But this is just another thread started by fans who apparently don't want to undertand that the Pats find something they can exploit and go for it. You could tell from the get go that running the ball was not something that BB had decided to focus on, evidently because he correctly estimated that Brady could burn Pitt big time with the pass. I mean, did you watch the game??????

I guess what I can not figure out....Is the OL overall with the exception of a few Kaczur and Light brainfarts each game......has been able to pass block EXTREMELY well....giving Brady alot of time....and good protection......However......they can't open any holes for the running game to succeed???????? Just doesn't make sense.......I think it has to boil down to poor execution and commitment to the play........Granted we have played 3 very good run defenses in the past 3 games.....so I wouldn't have expected huge run numbers....but this is one area we need to improve on.

I am not sure that LoMo's style is going to succeed in our system.......but I would think the Pats would keep him as a change of pace back and to catch passes out of the backfield......similiar to what Faulk brings to the table.....and then we can go out and draft another RB......we shall see.....for now we HAVE to get our running game going to add another attack to our arsenal!!!

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Right on cue. Da bruinz comes in insulting everyone. Day by day the people who think you are a anger filled hot head grows and grows!!!!

excuses excuses

Right on Cue. Danny88 comes in spewing his idiocy. Day by day the people who think he's an idiot who knows nothing about football grows and grows.

Reality reality, Danny.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

I'd love to know just how high NSA, Danny88 and the rest of the clowns were on the mighty Reggie when he was in the draft. I'm sure that each and every one of them were positive that he was going to be a bust.

You insinuated I was a fan of Bush. Said you would love to see how I felt about Reggie. Fact is I have never said a word about Reggie and or Mcfadden.

I also do not want to draft Mcfadden.

Stop making things up. After the season we will see who was right about slo mo.

I would love to see how you felt about Bethal Johnson! Hes going to develope!!

Don't worry, they'll excuse the new running back we draft by saying the pats must be "concerned" with the health of Sammy Morris coming back from injury and that it has nothing to do with SLoMo's sorry arse production. These guys would still be mopping and sweeping floors on the Titantic.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

LoMo would be far better in the Broncs system.


We need a guy like J Stewart from Oregon. A big pounder with great vision and a nose for the endzone.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Hopefully Maroney can turn into a good runner after six years. Maybe even three :bricks:

Gee, it was you and NSA who started talking about Tiki Barber and Robert Smith. Kinda sucks to have to acknowledge the truth about those two, doesn't it.

TRUE OR FALSE: It took Robert Smith and Tiki Barber 4 or more years to reach the 1000 yard plateau. TRUE

NUFF SAID.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

You know why they didn't have the differential? Because they had STUD running backs!!! Wake up son.

You know why they didn't have the differential? Because they had a SINGLE BACK SYSTEM and ran the ball the same amount.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Gee, it was you and NSA who started talking about Tiki Barber and Robert Smith. Kinda sucks to have to acknowledge the truth about those two, doesn't it.

TRUE OR FALSE: It took Robert Smith and Tiki Barber 4 or more years to reach the 1000 yard plateau. TRUE

NUFF SAID.

True or false listing 2 rbs that went against the grain and blossomed much later in there career says what? Now tell us about all the guys who started out slow and stayed that way. I know some people who hit the lottery. I know a helluva a lot more that did not. There's always a chance though!

I think the list of busts would be a hulleva a lot longer.


If we had the chance to trade Maroney to a team like Denver (just saying) would you do it? If the deal would help us out?

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Brady is on pace to have that. He does not have that yet. Until he does you are speculating.

Also manning was taken out of several games early in 04. Especially at the end of the season.

Gee.. Usually when someone says "IS ON PACE FOR" that is speculation.

Also, its amazing how you ignored the fact that in your examples, the guys were all experienced backs having at least 4 years experience.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Gee.. Usually when someone says "IS ON PACE FOR" that is speculation.

Also, its amazing how you ignored the fact that in your examples, the guys were all experienced backs having at least 4 years experience.

Dude, than why did we trade Bethel Johnson? Afterall, I'm sure we could find one or two WR guys that suddenly DEVELOPED after 4 or 5 years.

 

[DaBruinz]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

I was at the game. Just like pretty much every home game. Maybe I will give you one of my season tics sometime.

Just because you were at the game doesn't mean you understood what was going on. And you've shown time and again, you aren't capable of understanding what was going on even if you did actually watch it.

Yet again you are making excuses for maroneys inability to make something out of nothing. All the good back do it.

Btw watching that play again where he carried the pile , I see the O line did more work then he did in pushing that pile.

Its not a friggin excuse to point out the FACT that the O-line was pushed back from the Line of scimmage on many of the running plays. But far be it from you to know what you are talking about.

 

[danny88]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Gee.. Usually when someone says "IS ON PACE FOR" that is speculation.

Also, its amazing how you ignored the fact that in your examples, the guys were all experienced backs having at least 4 years experience.

You are confusing my argument with what NSA said.

Until Brady has the attempts you claim he will , you cannot say that is a fact he will have x numbers of anything. Speculation is not fact. I can speculate LoMo will always run the way he does. You tell me thats insane.

You are the guy who expects arguments to be based on facts. You are not basing that argument on facts.

Also Manning was taken out of a bunch of games early , especially late in the season.

 

[stcjones]

Re: Honestly, can we now all agree that Maroney is NOT the answer as an every down ba

Since you missed it, the 2 times late in the game when the Pats TRIED to rush the ball, the Steelers defense pushed the Pats O-line behind the LOS, allowing them to stop Maroney. HOW is that Maroney's fault? The fact that he was able to get 2 yards on a play where the d-line was on his side of the LOS says alot.

The Pats pass blocking has been outstanding this year. The run blocking, not so much lately. It was good earlier in the year.. Maybe its because Neal's been out the last two games. I don't know.

What I do know is that the Pats are 13-0 and its been a TEAM effort. Everyone doing their part. The Pats had scored on 66.7% of their drives heading into last night. Entering the game, they'd had 59 red zone chances and scored on all of them but 1 or 2 in garbage time.

Would I have liked to see the Pats run more? Sure. Because I like it when they beat teams no matter what. But I also know that its just foolishness to NOT use the passing game when Tom Brady is arguably the Best QB in the league (and possibly of all time) and the Pats have such an amazing and dynamic set of receivers. The O-line has been damn near lights out in the pass protection. I don't think some of you realize that, heading into this season, Brady had been sacked an AVERAGE of 26 times a season. Brady's been sacked a total of 16 times this season. If that number hits 20, I'll be surprised.

Possibly the best of all time?....No...go ahead and crown him Denny Green....Brady IS the BEST of ALL TIME!!!!!