Lebron James and NBA Discussion!

[lancerman]

Graceless child, please get your unnecessarily argumentative head out of your derriere and look at the comment you are responding to in the context in which it was made and who it was being made to.

See the little problem is that the comment I was responding to was quoting a comment that was responding to me. So I was very well aware of where that line of discussion came from.

 

[Jackson 2]

The difference is that Paul George couldn't turn down that $40M for that extra year. If everything was equal, he would've gone to LA.

Cousins is injured and won't get a max deal anywhere.

Because in addition to being a major talent he's a major headcase.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Because in addition to being a major talent he's a major headcase.

That's what worries me about him going to LA.

 

[maust]

See the little problem is that the comment I was responding to was quoting a comment that was responding to me. So I was very well aware of where that line of discussion came from.

Again with the excuses. My post, addressing someone else, regarded the prevalent, but to me, forgivable nature of a certain measure of recency bias in a general sense. That should have been readily apparent to anyone viewing it in an objective fashion. You quoted me but were really responding to the poster I was engaging. Your self absorption and need to engage argumentatively both seem to know no bounds.

As to comparing eras, I have spoken my piece regarding comparing them. The only further thing I would add is in football there is a clear and recognized declination as to what defines the 'modern era' vs basketball where it is a bit fuzzier.

 

[Ring 6]

While a lot of players would benefit from modern sports a lot of great players would find out that they had a ceiling that they didn't know they had, which is what happens to most athletes. They are all motivated like crazy but some workhorses become Julian Edelman's and the rarity becomes Jerry Rice.

The overall era stuff is tough because it cuts in favor of the era you prefer. If you consider today to be softball then yeah a guy like Curry's skill sets will translate horribly in the 60's and 70's. But that's the direction the sport is going in.

Also lets be straight up here, if you are 60 or younger you are too young to have seen Russell or Wilt and put them in any proper context. A 60 year old today would have been 11 in Russell's last playing year. And no offense, I don't really care for someone who was 6 or 7 during Russell's prime telling me about him. So if you are 65 plus, fine give an opinion on him, but anybody else is just going off what they heard, the stats, and the clips they watched like everybody else. So this whole "you didn't watch a basketball game prior to 2010" is such a false shield. I religiously watched Jordan as a kid and even I feel uncomfortable acting like I watched that and was anything but a kid who was amazed by what he saw. But I do know how his stats stack up, I do know how Bird called him god disguised as a basketball player and how even during his playing career guys like Magic and Wilt and Russell were singing his praises. At some point you go far back enough and you are going to hit someone you don't have context for. In football context Otto Graham went to 10 straight championships and won 7 of them and he did it across both relevant leagues. You'd have to be 80 or likely older to have watched Graham in his prime and to have an accurate "I saw it" argument to contextualize his place in history. In yet there are plenty people in the NBA not to long ago who freaked out and made a bunch of excuses when I made the comparison to how Jordan is to Russell what Brady is to Graham. And that's ignoring that much younger people were calling people like Kareem in basketball and Montana the GOAT. So again it's fine line comparing across era's because everyone wants to act like they are knowledgeable and to a certain point everyone isn't and they have to rely on things other than the eye test.

This is totally inconsistent with your comments in this thread which imply you are right and everyone else is wrong.
Comparing different players on different teams across generations and style of play is extremely subjective.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

He'll join LeBron in LA on a one year prove it deal. Cousins has wanted to play for the Lakers for years.

Nope, he’s ring chasing next year

 

[HailHydra]

After a long offseason, me and my big man LeBron (I affectionately refer to him as Lebroo) had settled down in LA, after a long flight from Cleveland, hoping to finally slay our demons. Then BOOGIE happens. And now I'm thinking how Lebroo can take down a team of 5 All stars, while having none to give him an assist.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Cousins to the warriors. What a joke. Seriously the nba has become a joke.

 

[Froob]

If Boogie returns to form this is the greatest starting lineup ever. ****ing hell.

 

[TB_Helmet]

After a long offseason, me and my big man LeBron (I affectionately refer to him as Lebroo) had settled down in LA, after a long flight from Cleveland, hoping to finally slay our demons. Then BOOGIE happens. And now I'm thinking how Lebroo can take down a team of 5 All stars, while having none to give him an assist.

Maybe we can come up with a good cheating scandal. After all I hear that’s what’s supposed to happen when a team is dominant and nothing else can bring them down.

 

[HailHydra]

Makes me come to value the NFL soo much more. Since having the salary cap, there's been good teams of course, great teams even, the occassional historic team, but never the every single fanbase wants to slaughter you type of team.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I don't hate the Warriors ... they gamed the system fair and square.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

This warriors hate will make its way to LA in 2019 FA. I could see Durant making the switch next offseason.

 

[Uptown]

 

[Tunescribe]

This thread either should not exist or at least belongs somewhere else, even as OT. Celtics forum, maybe?

 

[Ring 6]

I think Lebron is going to struggle to get players to join him. Part of Lebron is you play his way and most good players are diminished by that. Kyrie was run out of Cleveland. Kevin love went from stud to standing in the corner shooting jump shots.

 

[Uptown]

Welp.

 

[Ring 6]

This thread either should not exist or at least belongs somewhere else, even as OT. Celtics forum, maybe?

Why? People are posting in it. Doesn’t that mean it belongs? Give the people what they want.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I merged the 2 threads and edited the title ...
We can leave it here for a while anyways until camp starts then the
non Patriot related OT's will be shipped off to other forums ...
We are mostly Patriot fans but many live around the country and world and have other rooting interests.
It's the slow season ... I like the thread discussion myself.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

This thread either should not exist or at least belongs somewhere else, even as OT. Celtics forum, maybe?

Maybe just changing the thread title to the nba offseason thread. It’s the slow part of the sports season other than this and the World Cup not much to talk about.