Lazar: Patriots Lockerroom Teetering on a Mutiny

[sb1]

Boston media gonna Boston media.

 

[Steve102]

You are assuming the team made him walk back the comments. They might have. Or Lazar saw that people were taking his statements as inside knowledge of a player led mutiny and he wanted to walk it back on his own. We probably never know. But it is unfair to say definitely that is what the Patriots told Lazar to do.

Put me deep in the skeptic camp. My initial reaction was the team redacted it. This was my concern when Lazar took that gig. To me it screams damage control by the team.

 

[Ross12]

Of course this is predicated on the idea that Maye is doing very well in practice. Or at least showing something that other players are having to stop and think about what's going on. Then you have Bedard basically saying Maye sucks right now and isn't better than Johnny Foxborough.

I don't think Bedard was saying he sucks. I believe he was trying to say that Maye does not have a good feel for the whole offense yet and they think they'd need to be limited in what they call if he was put in now. If I had to guess, he's probably still working on playing under center. But when they practice shotgun stuff, I'm sure he looks excellent so the players are wowed and wonder why he isn't out there.

 

[Wax Frog]

I wish I could apply popcorn to the thread

 

[Ring 6]

Players play. Coaches coach.
Neither group seems to be doing a very good job at this time, but the answer isn't to put Maye in behind a line that can't block a ham sandwich and with receivers who couldn't get open in the middle of Boston Common at midnight in February.

The reporting was irresponsible. If you have access to the locker room because the team gives it to you, you follow the oldest rule in the book: what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room. Players have to know that they can blow off steam and not make news. I think there are many occasions in many seasons when players in most sports say things and even fight among themselves in the locker room, but also know that they have a job to do and get past it. I'd fire Lazar.

Mayo has to show he is in charge or should be gone after the season...but that will never happen for many reasons. Anyone who cares to do so can find my post after Mayo's appointment in which I said that I didn't think he was right for the job, that the last thing a team in transition needed was a "players coach" and that Mayo would only prolong the agony by an additional two or three years as the Franchise tries to move on from 20 unprecedented seasons.

Who blocks ham sandwiches?

 

[dliverey44]

I read an blurb this morning that said

offensive veteran: completely false

Defensive player: thats complete ********

Jabril Peppers: this is me on the record, he has not lost the locker nor will it ever happen

I am paraphrasing because I can't remember exactly what was said. I love the fact that Peppers said put me on the record

 

[Steve102]

I read an blurb this morning that said

offensive veteran: completely false

Defensive player: thats complete ********

Jabril Peppers: this is me on the record, he has not lost the locker nor will it ever happen

I am paraphrasing because I can't remember exactly what was said. I love the fact that Peppers said put me on the record

I know there's guy on that team that really like him. I can also see some mouthy WR spouting off about "getting my touches" as well.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Watching Mayfield and Cousins last night was truly shocking how fast both of them processed the defense and reacted.

Not always perfect. Mayfield missed seeing Evans crossing with clear sailing for a TD that would have put the game out of reach for Atlanta. Mayfield still executed a positive play, but not the knockout.

Cousins came back and knew where the ball was going and delivered.

Brissett is in the tier of worst QB's in the NFL, so his play is not surprising to me. He will take the safe throws each time so he can hit his stat line of 130-150 yards passing per game. If he remains the starter the rest of the season we should have a over/under on him passing for more than 10 TD's as he's currently on pace for 8.5. That is wild in todays game.

Yep, Mayo f-ed himself with the Maye was better at the end of camp line. It's not hard to say stuff without saying stuff and Mayo hasn't learned that yet.

That was very weird and surprisingly overlooked by the media. Knowingly sitting the better player is not putting the best interest of the team first.

 

[Ring 6]

Brissett is in the tier of worst QB's in the NFL, so his play is not surprising to me. He will take the safe throws each time so he can hit his stat line of 130-150 yards passing per game. If he remains the starter the rest of the season we should have a over/under on him passing for more than 10 TD's as he's currently on pace for 8.5. That is wild in todays game.


That was very weird and surprisingly overlooked by the media. Knowingly sitting the better player is not putting the best interest of the team first.

When we signed Brissett my immediate reaction was out of all the QBs out there we managed to find one with lower YPA, TD % and W/L record than Mac Jones.
He may have been the only one.

 

[TheRainMaker]

When we signed Brissett my immediate reaction was out of all the QBs out there we managed to find one with lower YPA, TD % and W/L record than Mac Jones.
He may have been the only one.

It was the Twilight Zone here with posters/media on board with it because "he doesn't turn the ball over". Yeah, because he never fuking throws it! I have no problem with sitting a QB (Maye) - only if there was someone ahead of him that warranted it. Maye can't learn anything from a journeyman QB with a losing record. That's actually not a good example to send to a young QB. The Pats clearly missed the assignment.

By the way, Mac Jones also has a better winning % than Joey Lawernce. Now that's funny.

 

[Kasmir]

Maye is too precious to be played? Not surprising that message is revolting to those who are actually playing.

And of course it's BS. This front office has to be terrified that Maye might turn out to be a bust. Hell, they're getting a mulligan for this season from most of the fans here by not playing him. If Maye plays and sucks -- all too likely for a 1st round QB who can't beat out an awful starter -- this holdover front office will be flushed. As it should be. It's now certain that this front office wasn't held back from greatness by BB.

Play Maye. We need to know what we have in him before next year's draft.

 

[p8ryts]

Maye is too precious to be played? Not surprising that message is revolting to those who are actually playing.

And of course it's BS. This front office has to be terrified that Maye might turn out to be a bust. Hell, they're getting a mulligan for this season from most of the fans here by not playing him. If Maye plays and sucks -- all too likely for a 1st round QB who can't beat out an awful starter -- this holdover front office will be flushed. As it should be. It's now certain that this front office wasn't held back from greatness by BB.

Play Maye. We need to know what we have in him before next year's draft.

No but they may have contributed to BB's downfall.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Lazure...

 

[IcyPatriot]

It's Slowcoby or bust ....
Oh wait ... we are already busted.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Maye is too precious to be played? Not surprising that message is revolting to those who are actually playing.

And of course it's BS. This front office has to be terrified that Maye might turn out to be a bust. Hell, they're getting a mulligan for this season from most of the fans here by not playing him. If Maye plays and sucks -- all too likely for a 1st round QB who can't beat out an awful starter -- this holdover front office will be flushed. As it should be. It's now certain that this front office wasn't held back from greatness by BB.

Play Maye. We need to know what we have in him before next year's draft.

I can't imagine Maye doing worse than a guy who is on pace for 8.5 passing TD's on the season.

 

[JohnJH]

Welp, there goes Lazar's locker access.

The question shouldn't be whether or not we agree with Evan's take, it should be why did the team take down what he said from their website. I like Evan. He seems to have pretty common-sense takes on the team regarding a multitude of areas. That being said, if what he said is true, the team didn't want that info kept out there. But, even if he's wrong (and what could he possibly gain from making such a statement if it were not true?), it also makes the team look guilty of censorship. Unfortunately, when given the choice of keeping or losing your job if you don't recant something that you said is true or at least your honest assessment of what you've been seeing and hearing because you're plugged-in to the environment, that's very disconcerting. This we do know, if he was telling the truth and forced to recant to keep his job, such trouble on the team will eventually make its way out so that it can't be covered up. Unlike B.B. to this day not telling us why he didn't start Malcolm Butler in the SB, either Evan will tell us if he takes a different job, or the team sinking in the metaphorical quicksand will find its way outside of the team in other ways.

 

[JohnJH]

He is in the locker room reporting what he is seeing. Why would he lie?

He has no reason to lie. That's what's disconcerting about this matter.

 

[JohnJH]

You do know what the difference is between a report and an opinion, right?

Even if it were his opinion (which is part of his job), why the censorship of that opinion?

 

[JohnJH]

Spot on, well said

I go back to when Plunkett was QB, I've certainly see the clown show that was this team for various periods of time. And enough of the same in my own life. But, your general point is taken.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Even if it were his opinion (which is part of his job), why the censorship of that opinion?

It's a stone in Bob Kraft's shoe