Kayshon Boutte, how does he do it?

[n1997y]

None of the above, he's Jakobi Meyers.

He's slow and doesn't separate, and any YAC he gets is by accident. Same as it ever was.

And look at who is getting the most separation and decent YAC!

 

[PP2]

None of the above, he's Jakobi Meyers.

He's slow and doesn't separate, and any YAC he gets is by accident. Same as it ever was.

Meyers's game was never about speed. He's a chain-mover whose game is short-area quickness, body control, and situational awareness. He has a pretty high football IQ and manipulates with his head and eyes as well as a receiver can and reads leverage pretty well.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Hello Kayshon Boutte. There's something a bit different about you to every other WR in the NFL.

The question isn't how BigBoutte is so special. It's how Tyquan Thornton never was.

(Also this is why he's BigBoutte.)

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Imagine if buzzkill BB had played him his Rookie year: he probably would have been further in his development.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Was Troy Brown an effective WR coach 21-23? Is Todd Downing an unsung hero this season? Is it the better field vision of Drake Maye & better chem WITH Drake Maye, even when Maye is constantly under pressure?

One thing that it seems was always going to happen (now) is that breakout receivers needed a QB with (moar) escapability and improvisational skills. So while we were waiting (at least, I was waiting) for a guy who could stand in/move the pocket, maybe extend a play, maybe you needed the full mobility add-on pack to get a ball to anybody with what we have at O-line. And maybe it's having that one key LT spot filled enabling the decision-making, enabling said emergence....

I'm sort of an idiot in these conversations because "damn, he turned out to be good" analyzes plays through the lens of one guy, and 10 others (on the field) are enabling him to shine.

But there's got to be something shiny there in the first place, so no dis on Boutte, perish the thought!

 

[Toofy]

One interesting fact, patriots are one of 4 teams who have 2 receivers in top 30 based on stats

Rams - puka and davante
Chargers - Allen and mckonley
Pats - diggs and Boutte
49ers - Mcaffrey and Bourne


Buffalo and jets don't have a single wide receiver on top 30. We don't need to chase a problem if we don't have one. We might not have glamorous stats but we are effective. Similar to KC who also just have kelce in top 30 but rice will slowly inch his way up.

 

[n1997y]

The question isn't how BigBoutte is so special. It's how Tyquan Thornton never was.

(Also this is why he's BigBoutte.)

Interesting to say TT never was special, and then find him on this same graph we are using to show Boutte is special:

Hello Kayshon Boutte. There's something a bit different about you to every other WR in the NFL.

 

[scott99]

I love how all the people who were counting Boutte out during OTA's or even early TC are now raving about him.
Meanwhile, when I said he'd be our most productive WR this season during camp, people mocked me.
Yes, just a shameless brag that I saw this coming and have been ahead of the curve in my evaluation of players since I started seriously following the team in '94.

I don’t hold it against people for that, it was their opinion at the time. I was in the other ballpark, Boutte convinced me in 2024, he had excellent chemistry with Maye, and a good 2nd season overall. Now he’s still showing good chemistry with Maye, has become the Pat’s deep threat, is 2nd in the NFL in yards per catch, and is tied for 3rd in the NFL in TD catches.

He’s a good NFL receiver, there’s no denying that anymore.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Interesting to say TT never was special, and then find him on this same graph we are using to show Boutte is special:

Despite a "breakout" year for TT in KC, he's still rocketed straight to the middle. Well, the lower end of the middle... something like 3 TDs/200 yards... significantly below the performance you'd expect based on the awesome separation he shows according to the graph. Nobody trusts his awesome separation because -- and this is a technical football description -- he couldn't catch the clap in a bankok brothel. I'm sorry but he leaves more balls on the ground than the initiation ceremony for a sultan's harem guard. The man's a physical freak -- he has the amazing ability to be both uncoverable and inconsequential. Tyquantum Thornton... you can't simultaneously observe his speed and his relative value because seeing one makes it impossible to accurately gauge the other. Only Tyquan Thornton can defeat Tyquan Thornton, and so far, he's winning.

 

[Betterthanmost]

Despite a "breakout" year for TT in KC, he's still rocketed straight to the middle. Well, the lower end of the middle... something like 3 TDs/200 yards... significantly below the performance you'd expect based on the awesome separation he shows according to the graph. Nobody trusts his awesome separation because -- and this is a technical football description -- he couldn't catch the clap in a bankok brothel. I'm sorry but he leaves more balls on the ground than the initiation ceremony for a sultan's harem guard. The man's a physical freak -- he has the amazing ability to be both uncoverable and inconsequential. Tyquantum Thornton... you can't simultaneously observe his speed and his relative value because seeing one makes it impossible to accurately gauge the other. Only Tyquan Thornton can defeat Tyquan Thornton, and so far, he's winning.

Wow, what a post. Well done. Took me a while to figure out about the poor guards at the Harem.

 

[TheRainMaker]

he couldn't catch the clap in a bankok brothel.

I'm jealous.

 

[n1997y]

Wow, what a post. Well done. Took me a while to figure out about the poor guards at the Harem.

A world class post, GOAT collection of perfectly apt and tremendously hilarious similes. I am awestruck.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

A world class post, GOAT collection of perfectly apt and tremendously hilarious similes. I am awestruck.

it was not done by me but through me

 

[TommyD4207]

Despite a "breakout" year for TT in KC, he's still rocketed straight to the middle. Well, the lower end of the middle... something like 3 TDs/200 yards... significantly below the performance you'd expect based on the awesome separation he shows according to the graph. Nobody trusts his awesome separation because -- and this is a technical football description -- he couldn't catch the clap in a bankok brothel. I'm sorry but he leaves more balls on the ground than the initiation ceremony for a sultan's harem guard. The man's a physical freak -- he has the amazing ability to be both uncoverable and inconsequential. Tyquantum Thornton... you can't simultaneously observe his speed and his relative value because seeing one makes it impossible to accurately gauge the other. Only Tyquan Thornton can defeat Tyquan Thornton, and so far, he's winning.

He got zero snaps last week.

 

[n1997y]

it was not done by me but through me

You are too modest

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

He's kinda Ditka-ish

Ooohhh good comparison! Can definitely see it. Loved and respected by his players and is tough as nails/concrete…had to believe Iron Mike is pushing 90…

 

[Water Boy]

Boutte is an athletic freak. That's how he's doing it.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

If Thornton can get open and he's playing with one of the best QBs... the issue, one might suppose, is trust. I don't think Mahones trusts Thornton's abilities.

 

[mikey m]

He got zero snaps last week.

Funny how some refused to realize that would be TT’s reality once Worthy and Rice were back in the lineup

 

[mikey m]

Despite a "breakout" year for TT in KC, he's still rocketed straight to the middle. Well, the lower end of the middle... something like 3 TDs/200 yards... significantly below the performance you'd expect based on the awesome separation he shows according to the graph. Nobody trusts his awesome separation because -- and this is a technical football description -- he couldn't catch the clap in a bankok brothel. I'm sorry but he leaves more balls on the ground than the initiation ceremony for a sultan's harem guard. The man's a physical freak -- he has the amazing ability to be both uncoverable and inconsequential. Tyquantum Thornton... you can't simultaneously observe his speed and his relative value because seeing one makes it impossible to accurately gauge the other. Only Tyquan Thornton can defeat Tyquan Thornton, and so far, he's winning.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

I'll add that it's okay if Tyquan Thornton isn't playing on New Year's Eve, you can just go to Times Square if you really need to see a ball dropped. Thank you very much.