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  1. SammyBlueCat

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    No disrespect intended but that would require being able to see the future before it happens.
     
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    Pffff.....Jordan Richards!
     
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    Which one? :)
     
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    Most probably because Stoops told Gronk about the phone call he got from BB before the draft.

    There was a nugget about that in a Simmons Ringer podcast several weeks ago right after Gronk retired. BB called Stoops before the draft and literally asked "Whats the deal with this Gronkowski guy ? Is he an ******* ?". Ryan Russilo was the guest on the podcast and he said he heard this anecdote years ago and didnt tell it until now.
     
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    Pretty cool segment but too bad that it looks like we are at a point where most of the minutiae of how BB / Caserio approach the draft have already been known for a while and everything is a rehash. I wish there was still more insight..

    The roles thing is pretty much just another way to describe how people often say that BB is one of the few that asks the scouts not to emphasize what a player cant do but what he can. Too many GMs and decisions are made based on things players cant do.
     
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    i think he will see the field this season
     
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    I agree. I think they use the projection of roles in calculating draft value but clearly have no issue recalibrating their thinking if once here the player starts to ascend.

    They must get a woody and a 1/2 when guys like Andrews,JJ, Malcolm and JC come here for pennies on the dollar or low in draft capital and become starters.
     
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    For what it’s worth, current center David Andrews said that Belichick called him two times during the draft in preparation for UDFA signings, so the answer to your question would seem to be “yes.”

    I’m sure they’re plenty prepared for UDFA signings just as they are for rounds 1-7.
     
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    Those attributes are not unrelated...
     
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    Sure but they area measured independently and part of an overall assessment of the player
     
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    We almost did that last year
     
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    This is true.

    But defensive linemen are much easier to replace than an elite defensive back. If we lost Gilmore to FA we would have issues, big issues.

    As long as we have several DBs who are GREAT in coverage our defense will be very good. In 2017 this was not the case and we struggled.

    We get a great coverage LB, Bentley, back from injury as well.

    Given that we return ALL of our DBs and LBs and acquired Bennett I think our defense will be one of the best in the league. Draft 1-2 DL early and this defense could carry the team.
     
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    C'mon Sammy :p. You could have someone graded as a udfa.
     
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    In theory he would be graded as a late round pick. No?
     
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    I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you're correct.
     
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    So it’s not the size of the board that matters?
     
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    Sorry PP, but you just hit on a sore point. Tavon Wilson was NOT a bad pick. He didn't do more for the Pats NOT because he wasn't any good, but because of who was ahead of him on the depth chart. He has proven in Detroit that, while not a standout, he was a solid starting S in the league.

    In NE he had Chung, Harmon, McCourty, etc that he was competing with for snaps. Being the #4 S in a group that was rarely hurt is not going to get you noticed. Too many fans never forgave him for biting on a play action pass against Seattle as a injury replacement ROOKIE that proved to be the winning score.

    Christ, Brady beat Troy Polomaluu on play action passes multiple times a game for a DECADE, and yet Wilson been crucified for having it happen once in his rookie year. If the goal of the draft is to bring in players who are good enough to play in the NFL, Wilson was a success....just not here

    Again sorry for the pet peeve reaction.
     
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    Couldn't disagree with you more on your first comment. It is MUCH harder to find QUALITY big men than DB's, simply because there so many more of the latter. Simple math.

    Not saying that losing Gilmore wouldn't hurt. He's been one of Bills best FA signings, but numbers don't lie.
     
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    BTW- I've caught Nagy a couple of times during this run up to the draft and he has yet to fail to offer at least one insight per viewing that made me smarter about some part of the process.
     
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  20. ctpatsfan77

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    For the record:

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    I dunno, but it seems really, really weird if the conclusion to be drawn here is that "Safety #4" is a role that's worth almost as high a draft pick as any WR role is.
     

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