jets blitz package

[SVN]

How will the patriots handle this on sunday ? I saw some clips on nfl network where the jets D was moving around and confusing brady like we used to do to manning ?What is the best way to counter this and avoid free rushers coming to the QB ? all you X/O guys can give some insight ?

i think this could be the key to the whole game...

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

How will the patriots handle this on sunday ? I saw some clips on nfl network where the jets D was moving around and confusing brady like we used to do to manning ?What is the best way to counter this and avoid free rushers coming to the QB ? all you X/O guys can give some insight ?

i think this could be the key to the whole game...

I think it is obvious improvement with the offensive line communication and they have been greatly improved since the miami game. i think that game was a wake up call.

I think their are two ways to handle this when passing, it will be a good strategic battle.

1. Short quick routes over the middle. Dump off passes to the rb. Screens if there is enough time to let it develop. And as some suggest slants.

2. Max protection when they are blitzing hoping it leaves the wr in a one on one matchup where Brady will have enough time to hit a recv'r for a gain of 20 or more yards when there is no safety to rotate over because he is blitzing.

 

[Oswlek]

How will the patriots handle this on sunday ? I saw some clips on nfl network where the jets D was moving around and confusing brady like we used to do to manning ?What is the best way to counter this and avoid free rushers coming to the QB ? all you X/O guys can give some insight ?

i think this could be the key to the whole game...

The simplest answer is to never get into a situation where a blitz heavy package makes sense. If NE never trails by more than 3 points and stays out of 3rd and long, blitzes will hurt the Jets more than they help, particularly with how well the offense is playing of late.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

The simplest answer is to never get into a situation where a blitz heavy package makes sense. If NE never trails by more than 3 points and stays out of 3rd and long, blitzes will hurt the Jets more than they help, particularly with how well the offense is playing of late.

teams blitz on first and 10 all the time. you are talking about obvious pass rush situations versus a blitz. teams also run blitz too on what is pwerceived as a running down.

 

[Oswlek]

teams blitz on first and 10 all the time. you are talking about obvious pass rush situations versus a blitz. teams also run blitz too on what is pwerceived as a running down.

I recall the Jets having most of their success on blitzing the pass later in the game. If the Jets were run blitzing, they were doing a poor job of it based on the results of the game.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Don't forget that the field was a mess when they last played. The Jets could bump the receivers to really throw off their timing since their footing was bad. This helped the blitzes. Having all the different pre-snap looks probably helped a bit in confusing the blocking assignments with Neal out, but to what degree I'm not positive. With the fake turf and the regular OL playing, I dare the Jets to blitz as much.

Regards,
Chris

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

I recall the Jets having most of their success on blitzing the pass later in the game. If the Jets were run blitzing, they were doing a poor job of it based on the results of the game.

I didn't say they ran blitz. I said "teams", I was talking football philopsophy that teams don't just blitz on 3rd down.

 

[patsfan13]

Maybe spread the field with 4-5 WR/TE, makes the reads easier for Brady, use screens and short passes. IMO the reads made by the WR recently have been better, more 'in-sync' with the reads Brady is making.

Remember last time the Pats were coming of the Colt game the Jets had a bye and 2 weeks to prepare that isn't the case this time.

 

[Oswlek]

I didn't say they ran blitz. I said "teams", I was talking football philopsophy that teams don't just blitz on 3rd down.

I guess it is just a miscommunication. I interpreted the question more as "how can NE minimize the effectiveness of what the Jets did well last time?"

I do think that NE's offense has improved to the point that they can take advantage of a blitzing defense. When I discussed staying out of obvious passing situations (long and trailing late) I didn't mean that teams only blitz then, I mean that NE would have the entire playbook available and it is harder to effectively blitz a team in that situation.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Cory Dillon.

 

[Oswlek]

Cory Dillon.

It takes me two posts and over 100 words to basically say what you did in two.

 

[SVN]

I do think that NE's offense has improved to the point that they can take advantage of a blitzing defense. [/I]a team in that situation.

i guess that is true but how much is it a result of playing teams recently which didnt blitz much like jax ?. i dont know how much tenn did but certainly not like the jets...
lets hope the receiver position has come together enough for us. i know we shouldnt be talking about the new receiving core but its hard to ignore the fact that the pats were actually quite good against blitzing teams like pitt. dont know much of such a similar challenge we have faced this yr thus far.two times -denver and jets did it and it worked for them.

 

[shirtsleeve]

Maybe spread the field with 4-5 WR/TE, makes the reads easier for Brady, use screens and short passes. IMO the reads made by the WR recently have been better, more 'in-sync' with the reads Brady is making.

Remember last time the Pats were coming of the Colt game the Jets had a bye and 2 weeks to prepare that isn't the case this time.

Good post. Dont forget either that our O line was not at 100% for that game. The best way to stop a blitzing D is with an effective running game. Run right at the early down run blitzes, with lead blockers and pulling linemen. Dont allow obvious passing situations more than necessary, and utilize the screen, comeback, and dump off routes effectively directly behind the blitz. These actions are blitz killers. The zone vacated by the blitzer is wide open for lots of YAC, just as the lane behind the run blitzer is nothing but green, too.

 

[Oswlek]

i guess that is true but how much is it a result of playing teams recently which didnt blitz much like jax ?. i dont know how much tenn did but certainly not like the jets...
lets hope the receiver position has come together enough for us. i know we shouldnt be talking about the new receiving core but its hard to ignore the fact that the pats were actually quite good against blitzing teams like pitt. dont know much of such a similar challenge we have faced this yr thus far.two times -denver and jets did it and it worked for them.

You make a good point that the last couple teams didn't blitz much, but I guess I am optimistic.

Nonetheless, I think this game is going to come down to NE winning the LOS on both sides. I wouldn't doubt it if Brady doesn't even go over 200 yards.

 

[JR4]

Brady has read very quick and decide where to go. If PAts have an empty
Back field and Brady has 5 receivers some short and intermediate routes
he can make them pay for blitzing. He has to be quick and accurate.
If they are succesful JETs will back off. The Oline needs to hold up
for at least 2 seconds - 3 would be better. Brady needs to be very
prepared to tuck and run if possible. Shotgun also may work well.

Another way is to run well. O'Callagahan is back and so is Neal. Graham
seems to be healthy and Evans and Thomas have been making good blocks.
If PATs come out and can run well and convert some 3rd and shorts
running it that will also keep JETs back a bit.

I just think if JETs blitz Rhodes a lot this time PATs will be prepared to make
them pay. I wouldn't be surprised to see PATs use a spread offense
with Brady in shotgun in early part of the game.

 

[IcyPatriot]

How will the patriots handle this on sunday ? I saw some clips on nfl network where the jets D was moving around and confusing brady like we used to do to manning ?What is the best way to counter this and avoid free rushers coming to the QB ? all you X/O guys can give some insight ?

i think this could be the key to the whole game...

3 step drop out of the shotgun using 3 and 4 wideouts ... TOAST!!!

Mangini wants us to run ... he will bait us to run. Expect at least 40 passes from Brady Sunday.

 

[IcyPatriot]

What I hate most of all is when Brady is in the shotgun, 3 or 4 wide and NO back in the backfield, especially when they go to this deep in the red zone.

To me, it more or less telegraphs the type of play and takes away options...

I prefer going under center, one back kept in, and then go wide with the rest or keep a tight end in.....

But, that damned 4 wide , no back in, takes away some of the guesswork for opposing defenses.

And, I also hate that parallel to the line WR screen.

You're going to be punching your table sunday at the Vine.

Just make sure they give you all plastic on your table...
It's okay we'll be crushing them...

BTW: Do you yell at the TV at the Vine or are you quiet???

 

[jczxohn1]

Need to keep Rhodes from cheating up as well.

 

[SVN]

Need to keep Rhodes from cheating up as well.

rhodes is being used the same way the pats use rodney ...move him around and keep the off guessing

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

I guess it is just a miscommunication. I interpreted the question more as "how can NE minimize the effectiveness of what the Jets did well last time?"

I do think that NE's offense has improved to the point that they can take advantage of a blitzing defense. When I discussed staying out of obvious passing situations (long and trailing late) I didn't mean that teams only blitz then, I mean that NE would have the entire playbook available and it is harder to effectively blitz a team in that situation.

The blitz has given them major issues. They haven't really come up with an answer with a team that blitzes them heavily(ie. Broncos, Jets). Until I see the remedy I'm gonna be a bit nervous.

What game this season do you think they have improved on that heavily blitzed them?