Jet Fan Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

[Ring 6]

Edleman and Welker play the same position. Do you think that NE is going to sit the WR who is being paid more so Edleman can get his playing time?

BTW, Welker lead the NFL in drops this season. Not including that TD pass he dropped vs the Jets last weekend.

They can both play at the same time, we use more than 2 WRs

 

[Ring 6]

I didnt notice you complaining about Edleman last season when he got to start more games due to Welker fighting injury.

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Edleman will be back. So he had a setback in year two? Big deal. BJGE would be gone and Maroney still around if some of these "fans" ran the team.

I'm not killing Edelman, I'm saying its ridiculous to say a guy who is best suited to play the slot therefore is almost as good as the best slot reciever in the NFL.

 

[Disco Volante]

...how is this thread still on the main forum?

 

[Ring 6]

Based on your prior posts, I thought this thread was all about hyperbole.

Either way, it wouldn't kill you to take your own advice

That exactly why I made the comment. I am discussing the players, you are throwing comments out such as
Quote:
Personally, I'll never get why some people are so sensitive that they'll lash out at anyone and everyone who suggests that the Pats roster isn't absolutely perfect as currently constructed.


Clearly a strawman.

 

[Dutchmaster617]

I wonder what this board would be like in 2001

"Drew Bledsoe has 30,000 yards and Tom Brady only has 6, how dare we suggest replacing him with this bum? You guys are all turning on Drew and it needs to stop."

 

[rep-]

Wouldn't surprise me. Welker is a nice player, but not a great one. He benefits from a perfect system. When Welker went down last year, Edelman stepped in and did the same thing. He won't be nearly the same player for another team as he is as a Patriot. Might as well steal a 2nd round pick out of him, now that you've got his replacement with some experience.

 

[PatriotsInGA]

...how is this thread still on the main forum?

This guy gets it.

 

[Ring 6]

I wonder what this board would be like in 2001

"Drew Bledsoe has 30,000 yards and Tom Brady only has 6, how dare we suggest replacing him with this bum? You guys are all turning on Drew and it needs to stop."

So every unknown player who has no performed at any level will be better than the good player already producing?
Lets trade Wilfork because Love 'is the same player'.

You are actually using the wrong Brady reference. You should use lets get a second for BRADY because we have Hoyer ready to take his place. Thats the example that is most similar to Welker/Edleman

 

[IcyPatriot]

I wonder what this board would be like in 2001

"Drew Bledsoe has 30,000 yards and Tom Brady only has 6, how dare we suggest replacing him with this bum? You guys are all turning on Drew and it needs to stop."

The Bledsoe people outweighed the Brady people by at least 3-1 back then. Belichick was fried for not giving Bledsoe back his job - because players should never lose their job due to injury (an old false thought). .

 

[Triumph]

I'm not killing Edelman, I'm saying its ridiculous to say a guy who is best suited to play the slot therefore is almost as good as the best slot reciever in the NFL.

Who is saying that Edleman is as good as Welker? And, why does Edleman need to be as good?

If NE brings a deep threat WR, and that player is getting half of Welkers throws stretching the field, why would that be a bad thing?

The Pats have a bunch of same type WRs. Possession guys that excel on short throws.

 

[TriplecHamp]

In other news Carson Palmer wants out of Cincy (Miami a possibility), and The Colts plain to make Peyton the highest paid player in the game or Franchise him if they can't get something worked out. They also plain to be very active in free agency. Hope we get our guys first.

 

[Triumph]

They can both play at the same time, we use more than 2 WRs

Welker is always the starting slot WR. Thats the spot Edleman has played when Welker has been out.

Sure Edleman can be on the field when NE goes 4 wide, but how often did that happen in 2010 with Gronkowski and Hernandez?

 

[Dutchmaster617]

So every unknown player who has no performed at any level will be better than the good player already producing?
Lets trade Wilfork because Love 'is the same player'.

You are actually using the wrong Brady reference. You should use lets get a second for BRADY because we have Hoyer ready to take his place. Thats the example that is most similar to Welker/Edleman

I didn't say he is going to be better, or even pull a Brady, but it would not in any way hurt imo to get something for Wes and improve the O and D lines, I rather work towards that and keep one white midget instead of two and less improvement on the lines.

It really is the same case with Brady, in 2000 he had 6 yards, just like Edelman has whatever catches to Welkers constant 100+, to me it doesn't mean it is stupid to trade him. He isn't the best all time slot receiver, he was putting up numbers next to the best all time QB, coach, and possibly WR.

 

[letekro]

So every unknown player who has no performed at any level will be better than the good player already producing?
Lets trade Wilfork because Love 'is the same player'.

You are actually using the wrong Brady reference. You should use lets get a second for BRADY because we have Hoyer ready to take his place. Thats the example that is most similar to Welker/Edleman

I distinctly remember 3 games that Edelman started where he was a major force (NYJ, Hou, Balt.). I don't remember how many he started (5 or 6 sounds right), but there is some precedent here that there isn't with Hoyer, so, bad example.

 

[Deus Irae]

I distinctly remember 3 games that Edelman started where he was a major force (NYJ, Hou, Balt.). I don't remember how many he started (5 or 6 sounds right), but there is some precedent here that there isn't with Hoyer, so, bad example.

New England lost the 3 games you're mentioning here. Perhaps there's a correlation...

 

[sevengables_2207]

I am trying to understand the logic behind the rumor that there is a rift between Belichick and Welker. Conjecture leads me to think that Belichick told the players not to talk back to the Jets during the week leading up to the divisional game, and Welker defied him by giving his infamous "foot-laden" inteview. From what I have perused here, Welker blew Belichick off when called to the latter's office. Furthermore, Wilfork has since publicly questioned the decision to bench Welker.

Again I do not know how much credence can be applied to the above paragraph, but there was something else that struck me as odd about last Sunday's game. I noticed that the Patriots seemed a bit subdued and even perhaps sullen when they came out of the tunnel. Brady, in particular, looked uncannily stolid. Maybe it resonated with me because I am so used to seeing this team come out fired up for a huge playoff game against an opponent that adds fuel to the fire via the press. However, as stated earlier, this is all conjecture, and doubtless far from an accurate portrayal of what transpired with the Patriots, Belichick, and Welker in the days leading up to last Sunday's game.

 

[SyN65]

Re: Credible Twitter source: Pats to shop Welker

i wouldnt mind. edelman is just as shifty as welker and faster.obviously he doesn't have the hands that welker does nor the chemistry with brady but those things could come over time. edelman has proved to be really exciting when he has the ball in his hands

 

[Ring 6]

Who is saying that Edleman is as good as Welker? And, why does Edleman need to be as good?

If NE brings a deep threat WR, and that player is getting half of Welkers throws stretching the field, why would that be a bad thing?

The Pats have a bunch of same type WRs. Possession guys that excel on short throws.

Because there is no one on the roster nearly as good as Welker.
You want to improve by losing the best WR on the team?

 

[Ring 6]

Welker is always the starting slot WR. Thats the spot Edleman has played when Welker has been out.

Sure Edleman can be on the field when NE goes 4 wide, but how often did that happen in 2010 with Gronkowski and Hernandez?

There are plenty of opportunites for Edelman to play.
Its ridiculous to suggest that he could be an adequate Welker replacement but couldn't get on the field ahead of TEs.

 

[Ring 6]

I distinctly remember 3 games that Edelman started where he was a major force (NYJ, Hou, Balt.). I don't remember how many he started (5 or 6 sounds right), but there is some precedent here that there isn't with Hoyer, so, bad example.

A MAJOR FORCE? Are you kidding me?