Is our defense this good?

[signbabybrady]

Not sure exactly how good it will be but everyone is way to down on the D. There is significant turnover at LB and we lost our CB1 but everywhere else we have continuity and talent and I think people are sleeping on the D a little bit.

Other than Buff the D was really good for the most part last year and the LBs needed the youth movement. 2 rookies and Mitchell should help curb the loss of JC. Mitchell has actually been much better through a week of camp than I thought.

I predict we will be our normal self on D which means top ten in opponent's scoring and if things continue the way they look so far maybe even better.

 

[borg]

Is 14-3 and the #1 seed still on the table?

 

[Wozzy]

Having Jones back is huge and not playing Bryant will definitely help, but I also think being forced to play Tavai and Langi will be another important factor. Throw in a Carl Davis and Bethel and your looking at about 5 JAGS having to play against Buffalo. I think the defense will be vastly improved this year.

Agreed, I don't see Bryant, Tavai or Langi making the active roster in 2022.

 

[Wozzy]

Not sure exactly how good it will be but everyone is way to down on the D. There is significant turnover at LB and we lost our CB1 but everywhere else we have continuity and talent and I think people are sleeping on the D a little bit.

Not everyone... I'm in wait and see mode.

If Jennings, Uche and the rest of the LB'er continue their strong play I have a good feeling assuming health.

Other than Buff the D was really good for the most part last year and the LBs needed the youth movement. 2 rookies and Mitchell should help curb the loss of JC. Mitchell has actually been much better through a week of camp than I thought.

I predict we will be our normal self on D which means top ten in opponent's scoring and if things continue the way they look so far maybe even better.

Nothing is written...

 

[PatsFan2]

I'll judge both the D and O when they practice against other Teams. I think that is going to be telling.

 

[venecol]

The defense is much faster overall and the corners are better overall.

The whole Bills punt nonsense is silly, patriots were very banged up in that game and j.c. took the day off

Please explain your basis for the bolded statement. Interested in your take.

 

[venecol]

Agreed, I don't see Bryant, Tavai or Langi making the active roster in 2022.

Unfortunately Bill disagrees.

 

[PatsFan2]

Please explain your basis for the bolded statement. Interested in your take.

Yep I'm waiting too.

 

[jah]

Unfortunately Bill disagrees.

When I saw this tweet earlier today, I mournfully replaced McGrone with Tavai on my 53 spreadsheet.

 

[Wozzy]

Unfortunately Bill disagrees.

We’ll see, somebody has to play special teams. When they cut down to 53 we’ll know for sure.

 

[PatsFan2]

Wow Jahlani Tavai another Kyle Van Noy from Detriot??

 

[Brotherblues]

The defense is much faster overall and the corners are better overall.

The whole Bills punt nonsense is silly, patriots were very banged up in that game and j.c. took the day off

Yeah, zero punts in 8 straight quarters vs the same team is not nonsense, no matter how you slice it.

 

[Brotherblues]

Please explain your basis for the bolded statement. Interested in your take.

He (probably) means that while there's a considerable dropoff at CB1, there's also a considerable upgrade over having to play Myles Bryant and Justin Bethel in crucial roles in big games.

I'm more curious to know what he means by JC taking the day off. Seems to imply JC wasn't serious about covering Diggs in the bright lights with the season and a fat contract on the line.

 

[Nunchucks]

Please explain your basis for the bolded statement. Interested in your take.

JC Jackson was the number 1 cb, who was not good enough to cover elite wrs, but definitely good enough to be a 1

Patriots have improved slot and safeties as well as team speed overall. They have nobody as good as Jackson, but, Jon Jones can occasionally move outside with Marcus Jones inside...also, Jack Jones may be a starting cb. Miles Bryant and jujuan Williams won't ever ha e to play...bottom of roster improvement still counts.

So far. At least at camp, it seems the loss of Jackson has not been noticed.

 

[PatsFan2]

JC Jackson was the number 1 cb, who was not good enough to cover elite wrs, but definitely good enough to be a 1

Patriots have improved slot and safeties as well as team speed overall. They have nobody as good as Jackson, but, Jon Jones can occasionally move outside with Marcus Jones inside...also, Jack Jones may be a starting cb. Miles Bryant and jujuan Williams won't ever ha e to play...bottom of roster improvement still counts.

So far. At least at camp, it seems the loss of Jackson has not been noticed.

Not so fast Nun that's why they play the games. Let's see if they can get off the field first it takes time to measure a Defense.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

When I saw this tweet earlier today, I mournfully replaced McGrone with Tavai on my 53 spreadsheet.

What is going on with McGrone? I saw that he has not done well in practice. Like everyone else, I was hoping that he would be a contributor to the younger, faster defense this year.

 

[PatsFan2]

Is 14-3 and the #1 seed still on the table?

The Patriots have a transition schedule in the first half of 2022 a lot of Teams have things to figure out good time to catch em.

 

[Sciz]

What is going on with McGrone? I saw that he has not done well in practice. Like everyone else, I was hoping that he would be a contributor to the younger, faster defense this year.

The torn ACL was all anybody could talk about, so a lot of people glossed over how he's super inexperienced and also very young. He only played 19 games in the last 4 years, mostly in 2019. Even after being in the NFL for a year, he's younger than all but two rookies (Thornton and Harris) and 2.5 years younger than Jack Jones.

 

[TheRainMaker]

JC Jackson was the number 1 cb, who was not good enough to cover elite wrs, but definitely good enough to be a 1

This seems to be a popular take on here for some bizarre reason. But what do Mike Williams, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, DaVante Parker (twice), Stefon Diggs (3 times) D.J. Moore and Amari Cooper all have in common? All of them were held under 100 yards receiving (averaging around 55 yards per game) and they caught a whopping 1 TD COMBINED in a league dominated by passing. Jackson had a league low QB rating when thrown in his direction and only gave up 4 TD's which was among the lowest for a #1 CB and was 2nd in INT's.

Tough crowd for JC.

 

[Nunchucks]

This seems to be a popular take on here for some bizarre reason. But what do Mike Williams, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, DaVante Parker (twice), Stefon Diggs (3 times) D.J. Moore and Amari Cooper all have in common? All of them were held under 100 yards receiving (averaging around 55 yards per game) and they caught a whopping 1 TD COMBINED in a league dominated by passing. Jackson had a league low QB rating when thrown in his direction and only gave up 4 TD's which was among the lowest for a #1 CB and was 2nd in INT's.

Tough crowd for JC.

What else did those teams do to the patriots defense? I mean Diggs has eaten Jackson's lunch at will