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Old news. The NY Post had the same photo last week.Another Vrabel Russini photo on Reddit
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Steve Garvey is not my PadreI think if it comes out that he cheated on his wife with more women then it’s going to get very hot in that locker-room. Vrabel is a heck of a coach but if more women start popping up then it might be over for him.
You nailed it. If he no longer has the credibility among the 53 men in the locker room to lead "about character, accountability and putting the team first" then he has lost the locker room and will have to go. If he does have that credibility, he can stay. You rightly perceive that what you or I or any one else "thinks" about him is irrelevant. It's what the 53+1 (Kraft) believe that matters.Yeah, no one knows how that will play out over time.
Personally, right now I'm seeing him in a somewhat different light than when he was declaring his innocence, ya know, to protect his family.
Not enough to dislike him or want him gone since I'm a pretty open minded person, but enough to tickle my hypocrisy filter, and really wish he really did give us the best version of himself instead of the less-wonderful one he's now backing his way into coping to bit by bit.
I'm thinking he can still be a strong coach and team leader, but he probably has to tread carefully when he talks about character, accountability and putting the team first. That part of his messaging IMO needs to undergo a careful and thorough review, lest he create a credibility gap for himself.
No one knows what he told the team, but it seems if he hasn't done it already, his best move is to really clear the air and address what he did directly with the team, and not obliquely like he has been doing in this public appearances.
I think it was the video that someone posted from the draft where either Lomu or Jacas were on the phone with the draft room and Wolf told him they had just traded up and drafted him.You nailed it. If he no longer has the credibility among the 53 men in the locker room to lead "about character, accountability and putting the team first" then he has lost the locker room and will have to go. If he does have that credibility, he can stay. You rightly perceive that what you or I or any one else "thinks" about him is irrelevant. It's what the 53+1 (Kraft) believe that matters.
This is the same publication which put an asterisk next to the Patriots in the standings during the 2007 season.It started with the nypost. They've basically admitted that it was to troll vrable and the pats.... Would care less if it happens to a jest coach. I certainly wouldn't go chasing the story.
Its also a pathetic display of vrabels personal life. Its apparent he didn't think any of this would get out so they didn't even try and hide even when there were reports in Tennessee
Confirmation bias is real.I think it was the video that someone posted from the draft where either Lomu or Jacas were on the phone with the draft room and Wolf told him they had just traded up and drafted him.
He handed the phone to Vrabel and I thought I detected Vrabel catching himself and not saying something that he would have said last year, because he is compromised and it could have been seen as hypocritical.
Seems like he's better at football than affairs.Seems there are 3 different issues:
1) The fact there is an affair
2) The fact that he executed the affair so poorly
3) The fact that he handled the post-discovery phase so poorly
As above, if the team executes well at the start of the season it'll all fade into the noise, and that's the most likely outcome.
Yet if the team stumbles, and his ability to lead seems to be impaired, and if more women pop out of the woodwork, it could be trouble.
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