If you could do the 2000 draft over again, would you still take JR Redmond & A Harris

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

I've always been curious to see how most Pats fans feel on this subject.

If you could pick for the Patriots in the 2000 draft, knowing what you know now, would you still take JR Redmond and Antwan Harris?

My answer is a very simple yes and I wouldn't even consider another player. Every season comes down to just a handful of plays. Redmond and Harris made those plays in the 2001 playoff run and that's all that matters to me. You can easily find guys in that draft that went on to have better careers. However, I doubt you can find someone that would have made a bigger impact for us.

It's also why I can look at the 2003 draft and not care much that we took Bethel Johnson instead of Anquan Boldin. Johnson scored on the kickoff return with no time left in the half against the Colts in that regular season game. That win gave us homefield in the AFC Championship. He also gave us the 7-0 lead against the Titans in the playoffs, a game in which points were hard to come by.

To me that's all that matters. If you helped my team win the Super Bowl, you've done enough for me. We can debate forever if taking other players in any particular draft would have helped us win more Super Bowls, but are you willing to risk losing the wins we already have? I'm not.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

The Patriots don't win the Superbowl without JR Redmond. He had that HUGE play on the game-winning drive to set up Vinatieri's shot heard round the world.

 

[BlueString94]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

For me, it's simple; every draft pick from 2000 to 2005, I wouldn't change. It's the butterfly effect; you change one little thing, we don't win those Super Bowls.

 

[CheeseMonkeys]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

For me, it's simple; every draft pick from 2000 to 2005, I wouldn't change. It's the butterfly effect; you change one little thing, we don't win those Super Bowls.

Or we could have won 5 super bowls?

 

[RayClay]

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Or we could have won 5 super bowls?

If we could replace those two with anyone in the draft, why stop at five?

 

[BradyBranch39]

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I'll take exactly what we took.

 

[RayClay]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

I'm replacing Adrian Klemm for starters.

 

[WhiZa]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

Instead of Dave Stachelski I would have taken Shane Lechler, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, or Dante Hall

 

[jbb9s]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

I've always been curious to see how most Pats fans feel on this subject.

If you could pick for the Patriots in the 2000 draft, knowing what you know now, would you still take JR Redmond and Antwan Harris?

My answer is a very simple yes and I wouldn't even consider another player. Every season comes down to just a handful of plays. Redmond and Harris made those plays in the 2001 playoff run and that's all that matters to me.

Interesting. If Bill Gates was not born, do you think we would still be without spreadsheets? If Christopher Columbus was a doctor and not an explorer, do you think Indians would be canoeing down the Sudbury river today?

Basically, Belichick runs a machine. You bring them in, train them for 9 months, and they make plays when it counts. So I don't agree with your premise. I would have rather drafted Urlacher and Bullock or whoever in addition to that 199th pick.

 

[CheeseMonkeys]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

If we could replace those two with anyone in the draft, why stop at five?

I'll stop at 10 super bowls, just so we aren't the most hated team in sports history because we are just that good.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

Interesting. If Bill Gates was not born, do you think we would still be without spreadsheets? If Christopher Columbus was a doctor and not an explorer, do you think Indians would be canoeing down the Sudbury river today?

Basically, Belichick runs a machine. You bring them in, train them for 9 months, and they make plays when it counts. So I don't agree with your premise. I would have rather drafted Urlacher and Bullock or whoever in addition to that 199th pick.

I get what you're trying to say but it's way overboard. Me wondering if another player would have made the same play in the Super Bowl isn't quite the same as assuming America would still be undiscovered 519 years later. And of course computers would still be here but are you honestly saying that everything would be 100% exactly the same with or without Bill Gates?

Also, Urlacher and Bullock were never available. We didn't have the draft pick to get them.

I think you're undervaluing what it takes to win a Super Bowl. It does come down to key plays, and guys like Redmond and Harris made those plays. Are you saying someone else would have certainly done the same thing? If David Tyree never played football, whoever Manning threw that ball up to would have certainly made the same, insane catch?

And if Belichick "runs a machine," why haven't we won a Super Bowl since 2004? I am in no way talking down to BB and the great job he does for this team but if it's so easy, why haven't we done it in the last 6 seasons?

 

[Patriot Missile]

Re: If you could do the 2000 draft over again...

Usually don't ven click on these what if threads. But this one was ok.:'