Has anyone noticed....

[sambam94]

The problem with Brady this year more so than any other is that if he doesn't see something right away, he's throwing it away. There is no extending the play like many of the other QBs in the league are doing. This makes the margin of error so very slim to sustain drives, especially with no deep option. You only have 3 plays to make a first down, continually throwing the ball away decreases the odds greatly. Yes, the OL is probably the main reason..

 

[primetime]

The problem with Brady this year more so than any other is that if he doesn't see something right away, he's throwing it away. There is no extending the play like many of the other QBs in the league are doing. This makes the margin of error so very slim to sustain drives, especially with no deep option. You only have 3 plays to make a first down, continually throwing the ball away decreases the odds greatly. Yes, the OL is probably the main reason..

This started in earnest last season. I remember wondering if a certain degree of the natural self-preservation that kicks in when you get older hasn't kicked in with Brady (finally). Then he won a Super Bowl.

 

[Ring 6]

the point is somewhat valid... he made dudes like Kenbrell Thompkins look like a pro bowler.. Remember the Unicorns! Show Ponies! Saints game? Heck - heres a video titled Kenbrell Thompkins building trust with Tom Brady

Kenbrell Thompkins building trust with Tom Brady

Thompson’s caught 32 passes his rookie year. He had more than 60 receiving yards 1 time. I don’t think you know what a pro bowler looks like

 

[Ring 6]

This started in earnest last season. I remember wondering if a certain degree of the natural self-preservation that kicks in when you get older hasn't kicked in with Brady (finally). Then he won a Super Bowl.

If it’s self preservation it’s situational. It doesn’t happen with a game on the line and it didn’t happen in the playoffs.

 

[RobertWeathers]

This started in earnest last season. I remember wondering if a certain degree of the natural self-preservation that kicks in when you get older hasn't kicked in with Brady (finally). Then he won a Super Bowl.

It's a possibility for sure.

 

[Ring 6]

What Russell Wilson is doing with the TE we had is what the old Brady would of got out of him if you get it.

Hollister has 17 receptions.

Jacob Hollister played a grand total of 145 snaps on offense as a patriot over 2 years.

 

[Tunescribe]

Ratings: 9.5 for worst cliffhanger thread title of 2019, 9.9 for worst OP (making readers try to understand thread title).

 

[primetime]

If it’s self preservation it’s situational. It doesn’t happen with a game on the line and it didn’t happen in the playoffs.

He threw the ball away quite a bit in the Super Bowl. Take a look at the play by play and all those "incomplete short pass intended for Sony Michel/James White."

 

[Ring 6]

He threw the ball away quite a bit in the Super Bowl. Take a look at the play by play and all those "incomplete short pass intended for Sony Michel/James White."

Nah. Screens that are covered are a totally different story. You can’t do anything but throw it away.

 

[signbabybrady]

I'm really not sure where this myth came from Brady has always been and still is very much willing to go to the new players. Wether Vet or Rookie the first time you get on the field Brady usually finds a way to get you a catch.

Plenty of rookies have had decent rookie years and even those that didn't were given opportunities. It's at this point where things have not quite developed for many. And I don't think it's fair at this point to blame Brady. He gives you the looks and either take the steps in this offense and become reliable or you don't and your gone.

There have maybe been 3 seasons in this run where the passing attack hasn't been on par with it's normal self so there really seems to be no reason to levy this complaint.

Please list the players who you think just got flat out ignored and never got a chance?

 

[SammyBlueCat]

 

[QuantumMechanic]

If it’s self preservation it’s situational. It doesn’t happen with a game on the line and it didn’t happen in the playoffs.

It sure happened with the game on the line in the PIT loss.

 

[luuked]

Hollister also can't block. He basically holds down a role in the Seahawks offense similar to what Harry is expected to do in New England.

I'd go with a worse version of what LaCosse was supposed to be and not Harry. But the basic comparison still stands.

 

[luuked]

the point is somewhat valid... he made dudes like Kenbrell Thompkins look like a pro bowler..

KT had 3-4 good games at the start of the season (Bucs, Falcons and Saints game stand out) and then "hit the wall" and was irrelevant for the rest of it. That is not what a pro bowl player looks like.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Brady isn’t what he used to be but he had veterans like Gardner, Welker, Caldwell, DP, Brown., Branch.

Consistency was key as well, only constant last few years has been JE and Gronk. This year has been the worst imo. Factor in bums at TE and a shaky o-line.

Who?

 

[primetime]

Nah. Screens that are covered are a totally different story. You can’t do anything but throw it away.

Those weren't all screens, many were hurls into the ground near a blocking running back to avoid a sack. Go back and watch the game.

 

[Ring 6]

Those weren't all screens, many were hurls into the ground near a blocking running back to avoid a sack. Go back and watch the game.

There were 5 total incompletions to RBs.
Few were what you describe. But you would rather he took the sack?
You are describing a smart play and criticizing it.

 

[PatsBoy12]

*Sigh* The board is now officially worse than the Pats WR situation.

 

[primetime]

There were 5 total incompletions to RBs.
Few were what you describe. But you would rather he took the sack?
You are describing a smart play and criticizing it.

Sure, some of those were legitimate throwaways that he would have made at any point during hos career, but the point is he doesn't stay in the pocket and deliver passes as he gets hit like he used to. He was always good at avoiding sacks, but now he throws the ball away when before he might have taken the hit but still thrown a completion. And it happened last season too so it's not purely lack of time from the offensive line.

 

[Ring 6]

Sure, some of those were legitimate throwaways that he would have made at any point during hos career, but the point is he doesn't stay in the pocket and deliver passes as he gets hit like he used to. He was always good at avoiding sacks, but now he throws the ball away when before he might have taken the hit but still thrown a completion. And it happened last season too so it's not purely lack of time from the offensive line.

It happens a lot more this year and part of the reason is that often after the first threat there are 2-3 other threats closing in. It really has been THAT bad at times.
Back to my point, if it’s a decision to put injury risk ahead of squeezing every possibility out of a play, it’s not happening and won’t happen in a playoff game or on a critical drive.
Understanding at 42 you can’t evade a rush like you used to is just being smart.
Im pretty sure none of us would like the alternative of taking sacks and getting beaten up.