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If they can pry Ben Johnson from the Lions, that would be a huge W
Though I will not be opposed to it, you want someone who has done it and understand how to install a foundation from the get go. Vrable knows what he will do differently, he knows what works, he knows how to lead men. Ben Johnson first go around will be like Mcdaniels at the Dolphins. Yeah, fancy offsensive play calls here and there but overall, not sure if he can lead yet. Having a leadership philosopy and vision for what the team is going to be is very important. Often, first time Head coaches have the imposter syndrome and that hinders them from laying out their vision and discipline.
 
I would rather have an offensive coach, but Vrabel is a good coach. So I can live with it.

I would pass on McDaniels. His offense doesn’t fit Maye’s strengths and I think it is outdated for today’s NFL. Plus, Vrabel favored the Shanahan offense in Tennessee.

I would consider Nick Caley after years under McVay. Not sure how good he will be but he is schooled on multiple offenses.
 
Though I will not be opposed to it, you want someone who has done it and understand how to install a foundation from the get go. Vrable knows what he will do differently, he knows what works, he knows how to lead men. Ben Johnson first go around will be like Mcdaniels at the Dolphins. Yeah, fancy offsensive play calls here and there but overall, not sure if he can lead yet. Having a leadership philosopy and vision for what the team is going to be is very important. Often, first time Head coaches have the imposter syndrome and that hinders them from laying out their vision and discipline.
I’m not against a Vrable hire, just would like to go with a creative, offense minded HC and I’m not sure any experienced HCs looking for a job are out there. Short of that, if MV can bring in an OC who is not Josh McDaniels, I can support it.
 
Offensive guy please. I've seen enough of this dystopian ancient defense ground and pound defensive guys.


The rules do not lend them self to a defensive first team.
 
The two main things going for him:
(1) He's good at developing young QBs (see: Cassel, Jones).
(2) The odds of him getting a third crack at HC should be . . . low.
I could see McDaniels becoming OC and never wanting to leave.
I’m sure there are other good candidates but saying Maye will have McDaniels as his sensei for his entire career sounds like a good plan to me.
 
Offensive guy please. I've seen enough of this dystopian ancient defense ground and pound defensive guys.


The rules do not lend them self to a defensive first team.
Like the one who won 6 SBs?
 
Like the one who won 6 SBs?

 

His ground and pound defensive minded ball got him ran out of the league but yo, he was really successful in a bygone era under different rules and different kinds of players so let's keep doing it!

Nope.
 
His ground and pound defensive minded ball got him ran out of the league but yo, he was really successful in a bygone era under different rules and different kinds of players so let's keep doing it!

Nope.
He won more than anyone ever has. The rules weren’t different in 2014, 2016 and 2018.
 
He won more than anyone ever has. The rules weren’t different in 2014, 2016 and 2018.

He's lost more than anyone ever has too.

What's your problem? It's over. Tommy did all he could for Bill.
 

Interesting article, which sources this tweet from Aditi Kinkhabwala (reporter for ESPN):



I will say - between Mayo's pressure from interviews and Vrabel having interviewed for pressure, there's a blueprint on how to force the hand of the Kraft's.

Yeah. Feels like there's a very easy way to make the Kraft's feel desperate
 
I’d rather have an offensive guy. A good offensive has had the upper hand on good defenses since 2019. The league is favoring offenses too much with now the OL are able to get out of there stances to address the QB and alert the C, line up way off the LOS and jump snaps.

The league is getting cheap as ****.
 
If they can pry Ben Johnson from the Lions, that would be a huge W
If the Lions win tonight, they can interview him this week. If they lose, they have to wait 'till next week.
 
I hope Kraft doesn't fixate on Vrabel. It seems he wants someone with a Patriots pedigree so as to rekindle the old magic, but that magic is now dead. Time to create a new magic.
 
He's lost more than anyone ever has too.

What's your problem? It's over. Tommy did all he could for Bill.
I forgot, you root for sucking and getting the first pick, of course you hate the coach who won 6 SBs.
 
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