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    How do you know this? Brady hasnt even taken a snap of PS much less reg season. And its not like he is coming off a career year. They look good on paper but there is a long way to go. Also, you just got though telling is that BB is going to pump the breaks on scoring in the 4th Q for fear TB might get injured. That dosent sound like the GOAT football team. Its sounds like a tentative team afraid to be aggressive who is playing from behind.

    So, which is it. You are completely contradicting yourself here.
     
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    So much for managing expectations.
    Quit hedging and tell us what you really think ;)
     
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    I don't necessarily disagree with that when referring to BB. But certainly other coaches would alter strategies in given situation. Also, he wouldn't simply be taken out of the game based on center-QB snap, ability to control game clock and huddle, and obviously, the threat and ability to throw when needed. I'm talking about possible subtle philosophical strategic changes that are well discussed among BB Josh and Tom. It's not a black or white situation. Regular season pride does not outweigh postseason production.

    I agree with the notion that protecting Brady and making alterations can disrupt flow and chemistry and actually open oneself up to more risk. That's why I'm talking about a general philosophical awareness where everyone is on the same page.
     
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    How do you know what is discussed between BB, Josh and Tom and how do you know they even need to have this discussion or what the results would be?

    You sound like you can't even tie your own shoelaces much less know what goes on in the minds of the football experts.
     
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    So me saying this is the most intelligent, battle tested team ever is an exaggeration?
     
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    Nice one. So now I can't make assumptions that BB Josh and Tom talk philosophy without being called a moron.
     
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    How can a team be "battle tested" if they have never been in a battle.

    Its not an exaggeration. Its idiotic. Come tell me this after they have slogged though a 16 game season and have gutted out 4 combacks and 7 close games and all that stuff.

    Its 2 weeks into preseason. You sound like an imbecile.
     
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    Wow! You must be clairvoyant. You actually guessed correct that those three talk football philosophy. Or maybe they talk Greek Philosophy and only stick to football when the discussion isnt about philosophy.

    Or perhaps that is not what you wrote. You indicated they discuss the protection of Brady and how that is more important than winning which is about as UN-Bill Belichick thing ever suggested here.
     
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    I don't understand why you keep calling me names. If you can't comprehend how being battle tested can carry over from playing in 8 straight title game, if you're gonna fight me on that then idk what to say
     
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    Because, if you have been paying attention for the past 20 years, or even 50 for that matter...or have played competitive sports yourself, you would know that what you did last year, is last year just like what you did last game is last game.

    Obviously you have not been paying attention.
     
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    Cause he has high hopes, he has high hopes, he has high apple pie, in the sky hopes.
     
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    Right. Can't rest on your laurels. Got it.

    My original point isnt even that controversial lol, they ran more last year then ever, they drafted another RB high, and they got their 1st round tackle back. It's really just a natural progression into the following year.
     
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    Having a strong running game to support your 42 year old QB is a little different than playing conservative in the 4thQ when behind because you fear your QB may get sacked.

    Which is what you suggested and is ridiculous.
     
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    You should accept that this was a bad thought. Things just don’t work that why, not to mention why would you want them to?
    You are endorsing the patriots essentially giving up when they are behind because they are afraid of the other team. If BB thought that way we would be about to embark on a 3-13 season.
     
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    McDaniels: What's the plan this week, boss? Cogito ergo sum?
    BB: Jesus Christ, as Hobbes intimated, if I may translate from the Latin, "I demonstrate, in the first place, that the state of men without civil society (which state we may properly call the state of nature) is nothing else but a mere war of all against all; and in that war all men have equal right unto all things."
    McDaniels: Ah, balanced attack.
     
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    Flat out saying less passing because scared of sacks and injuries is indeed ridiculous. It's more subtle and big picture then that.

    Patriots finished 3rd in rushing attempts last year without a rushing QB. There was a slight strategic change, that's why they used such high picks on Wynn/Michel which was an incredible running game tandem at Georgia. IMO that strategy includes running the ball, having a lock down secondary and great overall defense, and excellent STs. Resulting in less situations for high volume passing.

    As far as running down by a score in 4q. That doesn't mean giving the game away.

    I respect Brady's ability as much as anyone. But when you have the well rounded team that they have, it would be foolish to fill up his plate unnecessarily.
     
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    Or in layman's terms...

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    To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the women
     
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    Newsflash: Pro football team with 42 year old QB with a meh running game goes out and gets good players to develop a good running game.

    How about you give us some good stock tips also.
     
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    Didnt see the yellow caption already there
     

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