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Sure, Tom Brady has had some come from behind wins in which field goals made the difference (this year at Buffalo, last year vs. NY Jets), but when was the last time Brady drove down the field to throw a come from behind, game winning TD pass in the last 30 seconds of a game?

That's right, against the Dallas Cowboys in 2011. This was also against a ROB RYAN defense. Must be something about him.

EDIT: definitely put in REX Ryan by mistake....meant ROB Ryan...good call
 
That's right, against the Dallas Cowboys in 2011. This was also against a REX RYAN defense. Must be something about him.

You mean Rob Ryan.

(Which might as well be Rex Ryan but with a wig)
 
Sure, Tom Brady has had some come from behind wins in which field goals made the difference (this year at Buffalo, last year vs. NY Jets), but when was the last time Brady drove down the field to throw a come from behind, game winning TD pass in the last 30 seconds of a game?

That's right, against the Dallas Cowboys in 2011. This was also against a REX RYAN defense. Must be something about him.

I think you mean Rob Ryan. Rex is that awful guy they're about to battle this week
 
was thinking the same thing while watching it. It was a Rob Ryan defense, around this time 2 years ago to improve to 5-1 and 3-0 at home with the game on fox. Aaron Hernandez made some clutch plays on that drive
 
Sure, Tom Brady has had some come from behind wins in which field goals made the difference (this year at Buffalo, last year vs. NY Jets), but when was the last time Brady drove down the field to throw a come from behind, game winning TD pass in the last 30 seconds of a game?

That's right, against the Dallas Cowboys in 2011. This was also against a REX RYAN defense. Must be something about him.

Rob Ryan, not Rex.

I get that they're twins but still. And if YOU'RE GOING TO CAPITALIZE TO EMPHASIZE, well, get it right at least.

And I doubt there's something about Rob, not Rex. Don't forget he was also running the D that blew us out for the biggest regular season loss in the past 3 seasons (while with Cleveland). And kudos to Tom for leading those two TD charges, but the guy has had us against the ropes twice at our own place. He's done a heck of a job.
 
It also featured Unicorns and show Ponies
 
Another fun fact on ESPN is that last evening was the 39th time Brady has brought his team back after being behind in the 4th Quarter.

Tom Brady is now 141-40 since 2000. Amazing.

Brady tied Fran Tarkenton for 4th all-time in touchdown passes last night.

Bill Belichick pulled ahead of Chuck Noll to take sole possession of 5th all-time in NFL wins behind only Don Shula, George Halas, Tom Landry and Curly Lambeau.
 
TriplecHamp said:
was thinking the same thing while watching it. It was a Rob Ryan defense, around this time 2 years ago to improve to 5-1 and 3-0 at home with the game on fox. Aaron Hernandez made some clutch plays on that drive

Aaron Hernandez had the kill shot...err, fatal blow...err, game winner?

Regards,
Chris


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Another fun fact on ESPN is that last evening was the 39th time Brady has brought his team back after being behind in the 4th Quarter.

Tom Brady is now 141-40 since 2000. Amazing.

Brady tied Fran Tarkenton for 4th all-time in touchdown passes last night.

Bill Belichick pulled ahead of Chuck Noll to take sole possession of 5th all-time in NFL wins behind only Don Shula, George Halas, Tom Landry and Curly Lambeau.

Another perspective on something that gets far too little attention, Brady's unprecedented w/l record.
With one more come from behind win he will have had as many come from behind wins as losses.
Partly so incredible because he so rarely gets the chance to come from behind because he isn't behind.

If he has 39 CFB wins, and only 40 losses that means more than half of the time he trails in the 4th, he wins. (since at least 2 were last second losses where he never trailed until the end)
 
Another fun fact on ESPN is that last evening was the 39th time Brady has brought his team back after being behind in the 4th Quarter.

Tom Brady is now 141-40 since 2000. Amazing.

Brady tied Fran Tarkenton for 4th all-time in touchdown passes last night.

Bill Belichick pulled ahead of Chuck Noll to take sole possession of 5th all-time in NFL wins behind only Don Shula, George Halas, Tom Landry and Curly Lambeau.

And if I figured correctly, the Patriots are now only one win behind the Raiders in total franchise regular season wins. Why does that matter? Because once they pass the Raiders, the Patriots will be the winningest of the original AFL 8 franchises (NE, Oak, KC, Tenn/Hou*, Den, NY, Buf, SD) For those of us old enough to remember the bad old days, that's a day that would have seemed impossible...
The Raiders have one more playoff win than the Pats but some of us feel that should be reversed (thanks Ben Dreith)
 
Not that it means anything, but the Saints game and the Cowboys game in 2011 were also both on FOX with Thom Brennaman and Troy Aikman as the commentators.

The feel of both games were similar, both with the Patriots down late in the 4th, only for Brady to pull off GW TD drives with a catch from Hernandez and Thompkins. Even though it wasn't really against the same type of teams.
 
Another fun fact on ESPN is that last evening was the 39th time Brady has brought his team back after being behind in the 4th Quarter.

Tom Brady is now 141-40 since 2000. Amazing.

Brady tied Fran Tarkenton for 4th all-time in touchdown passes last night.

Bill Belichick pulled ahead of Chuck Noll to take sole possession of 5th all-time in NFL wins behind only Don Shula, George Halas, Tom Landry and Curly Lambeau.

Does anyone know how many games "Brady" has lost when teams have scored with no time on the clock? It's theoretically possible that Brady has more 4th quarter comebacks than he has losses where his team was ever behind in the 4th quarter.
 
Thanks for that. I knew it was awhile. Felt like forever.

I felt this way and said it before in previous years, but there's something to say about getting used to win by being up 10-20 points every game. I have to believe it affected Tom a little bit whenever he found himself in those 4th quarter situations, when every game we were blowing teams away. And not just Tom, but this team as a whole.

So I think this start to this season, and especially Sunday's game is huge not just for us, but for Tom and this team.

He really has not had to be Mr. Clutch in a long time, and I gotta believe it took some time to him to remember how to deal with that. Thank God it came yesterday. It was much, much needed.
 
Thanks for that. I knew it was awhile. Felt like forever.

I felt this way and said it before in previous years, but there's something to say about getting used to win by being up 10-20 points every game. I have to believe it affected Tom a little bit whenever he found himself in those 4th quarter situations, when every game we were blowing teams away. And not just Tom, but this team as a whole.

So I think this start to this season, and especially Sunday's game is huge not just for us, but for Tom and this team.

He really has not had to be Mr. Clutch in a long time, and I gotta believe it took some time to him to remember how to deal with that. Thank God it came yesterday. It was much, much needed.



The Patriots lost only 4 games all of last season, and only 3 in 2011. In 2011, the comeback against the Cowboys came after an earlier loss, so that means that the Patriots have only lost 6 games since that last "TD" comeback.
 
Thanks for that. I knew it was awhile. Felt like forever.

I felt this way and said it before in previous years, but there's something to say about getting used to win by being up 10-20 points every game. I have to believe it affected Tom a little bit whenever he found himself in those 4th quarter situations, when every game we were blowing teams away. And not just Tom, but this team as a whole.

So I think this start to this season, and especially Sunday's game is huge not just for us, but for Tom and this team.

He really has not had to be Mr. Clutch in a long time, and I gotta believe it took some time to him to remember how to deal with that. Thank God it came yesterday. It was much, much needed.

Posts like this always remind me of the significant difference between information and knowledge.

Yes, factually, this is correct. However, it relies on a pretty arbitrary (and ridiculous) definition of what "clutch" is.

I understand that people can easily get fixated on inane factoids but if that's your definition of clutch, take Tony Romo, he's your guy. He led the league in 4th-quarter comebacks last season. Of course his team was also often trailing in the 4th quarter...but whatever, all that matters in terms of "clutch" play is what you do in the 4th quarter on the last drive, especially if you need a TD.

The funny thing is people forget about clutch plays based on the final score. What about two weeks after that Cowboys win when the Patriots trailed 17-13 to the Giants with 3:03 left in the 4th and Brady drove them down for a TD and the lead with only 1:36 left? Eli Manning would bring the Giants down for the game-winning score, so does that make Brady's drive not clutch? According to your definition, yes.

Clutch isn't just about scoring a TD on the last drive while trailing in the 4th quarter. Clutch is about taking over in key situations. In fact, true dominant clutch play can last much longer than a single drive. True clutch play can make the last drive absolutely meaningless.

What about late 2011, trailing the Dolphins 17-0 at halftime and Brady leads the Patriots to 27 straight points in the second half to pull out the win? Is that not "clutch" because it didn't happen on the last drive of the game?

Or the last week of that season, down 21-0 early to the Bills, then unleashing 49 straight points? There are no points for clutch because the final score looks so lopsided, but that's only because of sustained consistency and, in my definition, clutch play to continue to build the momentum for the comeback.

Or again trailing the Bills 21-7 in 2012 early in the second half and Brady pushes the team towards 35 straight points to route the opposition. No clutch points because his dominance in the second half was sustained long enough to put the game out of reach. But if he didn't play half as well as he did, we might barely win, hopefully on the last drive, and then I'm sure he'd earn more respect from some posters for being more "clutch." :bricks:

It isn't considered "clutch" by your definition to cling to a 24-17 lead against a playoff-caliber team like the Colts last year and score the first 21 points of the second half on the way to outscoring them 35-7.

And it isn't "clutch" that Brady led his team back from a 31-3 hole against San Fran to tie it up at 31-31, only to see the special teams give up a huge play that led to an easy TD.

You're fixated on the last drive of the game because you believe that's all that counts. But don't forget that all the other drives before that count for the same amount of points and have the same impact on winning or losing.

Brady has pulled wins out of sure losses several times these past few seasons, but you've missed them because you're waiting on that "last drive" magic. And for that, I am truly sad for you. You're missing out on some amazing football.
 
Aaron Hernandez had the kill shot...err, fatal blow...err, game winner?

Regards,
Chris


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That's funny

Right up until the point where I grind my teeth down to the nerves.
 
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