Enough Value -Trade up and get a Playmaker!

[DaBruinz]

Not that I know of, that was meant to be a metaphor.

Yes, the Pats did want to get Revis.. However, they didn't have the firepower in terms of draft picks to be able to trade up in 2007. Carolina got a 1st, 2nd and 5th from the Jets in trade. The Pats had traded their 2nd rounder and a 7th round to Miami to get Welker..

 

[DaBruinz]

The general idea seems to be that by trading down you have more opportunity for success, you mentioned the Clay Matthews trade, which I’m actually ok with, if BB drafted Wallace instead of Tate it would be hailed as one of the best moves ever. My core problem with it is that there doesn’t seem to be the emphasis on undervalued players in order to make it worth while. Gronk had a prior back issue which spooked teams, so he’s essentially a 1st round talent that you can pick up in the 2nd round, no problem, I’m ok with that kind of risk, but where Butler and Tate undervalued or appropriately valued? Tate wasn’t a #1 receiver on his college team and it was also known that he would lose a year because of his injury, the first thing I would think is “will for 4yrs of service from a guy who couldn’t even be the #1 on his college team be worth more than 5yrs of service from ______”?

Something is expensive is when the quality doesn’t align with the price, the Jets had to trade up for Revis but he was still a bargain, OTOH paying cheap money to a guy that sucks isn’t value, this seems lost on the personnel dept.

One of the things that you are ignoring about Tate is that, prior to his injury, many were touting him as having late 1st to early 2nd round potential. The same can't be said for Wallace. As for your evaluation of Tate, again, you are using hindsight to make your evaluation. No one knew exactly how Tate would turn out. To say he "sucked" when he was a 3rd round pick who many felt was the best returner (both kick returns and punt returns) coming out of college, but was still raw as a receiver (read PROJECT), is totally using hindsight and is not looking at it from the perspective of when he was actually drafted.

Also, what is to say that Wallace would have turned into the receiver that he is today under the tutelage of the Bill O'Brien and Pat O'Shea?? For all we know, Walalce could have turned into a bust as well.