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That is gonna be one tough day for Pats fans.Good to see him get paid. Looks like he and Brady will retire together.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.That is gonna be one tough day for Pats fans.Good to see him get paid. Looks like he and Brady will retire together.
DA deserves an honorable mention.When the rubber needs to meet the road it's a dead tie between Edelman and Gronk with Brown barely a hair's breadth back from them. With a game on the line you'd be hard pressed to do better than those three. Steak over sizzle I'd put them up against any trio from any other team's history.
When the rubber needs to meet the road it's a dead tie between Edelman and Gronk with Brown barely a hair's breadth back from them. With a game on the line you'd be hard pressed to do better than those three. Steak over sizzle I'd put them up against any trio from any other team's history.
That is gonna be one tough day for Pats fans.
DA deserves an honorable mention.
With the game on the line give me Edelman, Brown, Gronk, or Amendola. All four made game saving circus catches a hobby.
Are you kidding? Welker was the spark in Superbowl 42!
Welker would be SuperBowl 42 MVP if Asante Samuel intercepts that throw, or referee declares Manning to be "in the grasp", or Rodney punches that ball out of the helmet.
Wes Welker has 11 catches for 103 yards in a 14-10 win if any of the above happens, and we're all talking Welker to Canton after his incredible 6 seasons of 672 catches!! including 3 times leading the league.
I love Edelman, but I don't see the need to throw shade at Welker's accomplishments.
It’s fair to wonder if Edelman makes almost as much in endorsements as he does in his actual contracts.
The Receiver "helped" us win Zero titles during his time here...Edelman is now up there with Troy Brown, another player under-used earlier in his career, as Greatest Pats SR evah.
Troy Brown is my favorite Pat evah.
In the meantime, I still don't think he's entirely to blame for that incompletion. Brady shoulders some of it.
Plus, it's interesting to see that Welker's playoff catch rate is noticeably higher than Edelman's (88 on 116 targets 75.9% vs 115 on 175 targets 65.7%).
Edelman just seemed to have come up bigger in the 4th quarters.
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No Edelman? Lololololol. He’ll go down as either #2 or #3 best player of the dynasty. Heroic moments effing matter!!! Even worse, how could anyone rank Amendola ahead of him? That’s just trolling.
That’s not a knock on Amendola, as he was so money. Very hard to not include him...just not over Edelman. Removing Gronk from the list since he’s a tight end solves that problem.
You need to watch the play. Brady threw it where Brady had to throw it and where Welker knew he would. As Collingsworth said at the moment 100 times out of 100 Welker catches that pass. It was virtually a perfect pass if you pay attention to where the defenders were.I blame Brady for the pass he threw. It was barely in reach for Welker after he spun around. I stopped arguing about it years ago.
Edelman does seem to have some drops at times, but in crunch time he's deadly.
He's as tough as nails too.
One of the best return men.
He also seems to be able to make extra yardage where there doesn't seem to be any.
I'm glad he's ours.
You need to watch the play. Brady threw it where Brady had to throw it and where Welker knew he would. As Collingsworth said at the moment 100 times out of 100 Welker catches that pass. It was virtually a perfect pass if you pay attention to where the defenders were.
There's enough Canton buzz around him that I think Edelman actually has a fighting chance. Not a huge chance by any means, but you know what that guy's always done with slim chancesCrazy Edelman is Second to Rice in Playoffs receiving yards and won't even sniff the NFL HOF.
This is a weird debate. On the one hand, Gronkowski is one of absolute greatest offensive players of all-time. It should be a silly question to ask whether or not anyone else is more valuable to Brady.
On the other hand - not just with a stacked team in 2016 - but many times it has seemed like the offense can still move the ball decently without Gronkowski, but they can be completely shut down without Edelman.
I’m pretty sure Brady’s with/without splits are pretty similar with each of them, and they’re striking in the difference in passer rating and PPG.
I’m going with Gronkowski as a much less confident choice than I would have thought logically. My brain just cannot past the absolute game destroyer he was on so many levels. He truly might be, in his prime, the most valuable skill player ever to lace them up. Sure says something about Edelman that this answer doesn’t come obviously from my observation.
It's funny how reputations are changed on the finest margins. Edelman had a drop that led to an interception in the AFC Championship game against KC (and a possible fumble on a punt). He also had a number of drops in the Atlanta SB. If the Pats lose both then perhaps he gets the unfair Welker treatment.
True. But he'd STILL have one more Patriots SB ring than Welker.
Or if Stomper Merryweather could catch...or if Rodney could've hauled in another pass, right at the 2-minute warning (still pisses me off that a replay was never shown, even after returning from the commercial break!)...or if punk-ass b!tch Pierre Woods doesn't allow A FECKIN RB! to steal a fumble recovery (and probably at least 3 points) from him...or if OxyKaczur doesn't act like The Invisible Man on 3rd/7 to create an out-of-FG-range-in-Bill's-eyes 4th/13...and of course the whole 3rd & 5/Offensive Holding/helmet feckin catch thingy...Not if Asante could catch.
Or if Stomper Merryweather could catch...or if Rodney could've hauled in another pass, right at the 2-minute warning (still pisses me off that a replay was never shown, even after returning from the commercial break!)...or if punk-ass b!tch Pierre Woods doesn't allow A FECKIN RB! to steal a fumble recovery (and probably at least 3 points) from him...or if OxyKaczur doesn't act like The Invisible Man on 3rd/7 to create an out-of-FG-range-in-Bill's-eyes 4th/13...
I do agree that $amuel probably made more difficult INTs than the one he didn't make there.
It takes a special kind of person..........