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Drake London: The Next N'Keal Harry?

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FredFromDartmouth

In the Starting Line-Up
I watched some highlights and London is a big, lead-footed WR who does not seem to get any separation. Perfect for the Jets. I cannot believe that he is projected for the first round.
 

DropKickFlutie

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
It's not BB. You have to think like a dumba-s to understand the offensive staff. Harry happened because Gronk had just left so they talked themselves into big red zone target, again big guy, potential jump ball threat.

This time if you think like a dumba-s I see this offensive staff saying they're missing an Edelman/Welker threat. So will hype up some bust WR who is supposedly quick and fast.

This is all moot as the Pats should just STAY AWAY from WR with high draft picks. A total nightmare record here on WR with high picks. Cross out all WRs on the high draft board until the draft eval process is blown up and remade at WR
 
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Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
2021 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
It's not BB. You have to think like a dumba-s to understand the offensive staff. Harry happened because Gronk had just left so they talked themselves into big red zone target, again big guy, potential jump ball threat.

This time if you think like a dumba-s I see this offensive staff saying they're missing an Edelman/Welker threat. So will hype up some bust WR who is supposedly quick and fast.

This is all moot as the Pats should just STAY AWAY from WR with high draft picks. A total nightmare record here on WR with high picks. Cross out all WRs on the high draft board until the draft eval process is blown up and remade at WR

if you look at bb’s history of misses on early round wide receivers, the thing that stands out is that he has missed on a bunch of different types of receivers. in college….

harry was slow, but had production.
bethel was super fast, but had no production,
Jackson had decent speed and decent production.

It’s like they took chances on all types of receivers, but somehow missed on most all of them.
 

FredFromDartmouth

In the Starting Line-Up
If the Patriots are looking for a WR or CB in the first few rounds, BB should be lashed to the mast, like Odysseus, while his staff makes the picks. He will be able to hear the Siren call of the latest WR/Bust but under no circumstances, no matter how much he screams, should the staff untie him and let him near the phones. By the 7th round or FA period, he can be released.


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DropKickFlutie

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
if you look at bb’s history of misses on early round wide receivers, the thing that stands out is that he has missed on a bunch of different types of receivers. in college….

harry was slow, but had production.
bethel was super fast, but had no production,
Jackson had decent speed and decent production.

It’s like they took chances on all types of receivers, but somehow missed on most all of them.

Yes. Not to rehash but the WR and CB eval system used for drafts was messed up in 2004. Before 2004 BB got Branch and Givens. Need to burn the CB and WR draft system and go back to BB's dads scouting methods.
 

FredFromDartmouth

In the Starting Line-Up
They overthink the high WR picks. By the seventh round and the F/A period they must revert to the quick, simple, Fred-From-Dartmouth criteria; i.e. can he get open? For some reason the can-he-get-open question gets lost in the shuffle of other selection criteria in the early rounds. Those other criteria must revolve around BB's pet peeves such as whether the WR is a boy scout or a prima donna, does he give a good interview, does he go to church on Sundays, Wonderlic score, does he call his mother once a day, etc.

That is the only things that makes sense. How could a schlubb like me do a better job than BB on WRs? I spend, like, 90 seconds looking at each WRs highlights and mentally measuring their separation. Last year it was Waddle who had the best separation but I am hardly infalible; I had Waddle rated much higher than Chase. This year it looks like London has no separation while this year's board binky, Slade Bolden, has good separation. But I am cynical about binkies...
 

patsfanfromoversea

In the Starting Line-Up
2020 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
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Drake London was on pace for the biletnikoff award certainly not harry 2.0 in that category
I am not a fan of this type of WR either I must admit but it’s always good to have different kind of WR to create possible mismatches
I would go in a different direction in round 1 than WR anyway as long as Wilson or Burks are gone
 

DropKickFlutie

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
They overthink the high WR picks. By the seventh round and the F/A period they must revert to the quick, simple, Fred-From-Dartmouth criteria; i.e. can he get open? For some reason the can-he-get-open question gets lost in the shuffle of other selection criteria in the early rounds. Those other criteria must revolve around BB's pet peeves such as whether the WR is a boy scout or a prima donna, does he give a good interview, does he go to church on Sundays, Wonderlic score, does he call his mother once a day, etc.

That is the only things that makes sense. How could a schlubb like me do a better job than BB on WRs? I spend, like, 90 seconds looking at each WRs highlights and mentally measuring their separation. Last year it was Waddle who had the best separation but I am hardly infalible; I had Waddle rated much higher than Chase. This year it looks like London has no separation while this year's board binky, Slade Bolden, has good separation. But I am cynical about binkies...

Can he get open used to be his dad's main scouting criteria for WRs. You're right. The WR system got broken after 2004 when mcd and caserio changed it and impressed bb with illogical mumbo jumbo
 

JerseyShore99

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
if you look at bb’s history of misses on early round wide receivers, the thing that stands out is that he has missed on a bunch of different types of receivers. in college….

harry was slow, but had production.
bethel was super fast, but had no production,
Jackson had decent speed and decent production.

It’s like they took chances on all types of receivers, but somehow missed on most all of them.
Yet hit on Edelman and Meyers, unreal
 

Ochmed Jones

Pro Bowl Player
2021 Weekly NFL Picks Winner
7th round pick and UDFA. Because at that point they abandon the crappy WR draft system and simply ask if a guy can get open and catch the ball, or at least have potential to.

at what point in a draft does bb abandon the flawed wr grading system, because I seem to remember him taking a wr named Taylor in the third or fourth round one year and all I could think was …. Why?
 

DropKickFlutie

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
at what point in a draft does bb abandon the flawed wr grading system, because I seem to remember him taking a wr named Taylor in the third or fourth round one year and all I could think was …. Why?

If he doesn't fix it then keep finding starters in UDFA and 7th round at WR and CB :)
And spend 1st rounders on OTackle, DLine, LB, or FS. Although I like that CB Gardner kid, let's see if the Pats mess up the CB scouting again
 

FredFromDartmouth

In the Starting Line-Up
Can he get open used to be his dad's main scouting criteria for WRs. You're right. The WR system got broken after 2004 when mcd and caserio changed it and impressed bb with illogical mumbo jumbo
Really? Where did you hear this? Don't get me wrong, I am happy to be in the same sentence with BB's dad, but it seems highly improbable...

The amazing, truly amazing, thing about BB and WRs is that he cannot correct himself. BB is highly flexible and adaptable; if there is a problem he can usually fix it....all except the the drafting of WRs. He fails again and again but keeps making the bad choices again and again; BBs WR problem is not fixable, apparently. It is like a dog chasing garbage trucks; it just never learns.
 

DropKickFlutie

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
Really? Where did you hear this? Don't get me wrong, I am happy to be in the same sentence with BB's dad, but it seems highly improbable...

The amazing, truly amazing, thing about BB and WRs is that he cannot correct himself. BB is highly flexible and adaptable; if there is a problem he can usually fix it....all except the the drafting of WRs. He fails again and again but keeps making the bad choices again and again; BBs WR problem is not fixable, apparently. It is like a dog chasing garbage trucks; it just never learns.

BB was fine drafting WRs and TEs from 2009-2012 when McD was away destroying the Broncos and Rams, and Floyd Reese and Bill O'Brien were here with BB.
 

zimmy

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
Seems to be more good depth at WR in this draft. I don't think we need to use a 1st round pick on one - will be interesting to see how far Williams might fall after the ACL tear.

I'm not a big fan of London or Burks. Don't think either fits what we want to do. We need to find a quick twitch change of direction guy for Mac - a Waddle type.
 

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