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  1. BaconGrundleCandy

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    This is generally where I'm at and I've expressed it a few times. This year is all about evaluation. See who steps up and who's in the cards for the future. This year's record is of little concern. At least to me. Bill is gearing up for 2021/22. I'm ready for some real turnover the next few years. Again this is provided Stidham is the real deal. You can't ignore the obvious and its been clear they really like Stidham. I'm actually surprised Bill didn't bring in more competition. Essentially Stid has to beat out Hoyer. Who he already beat out. And two udfa.
     
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    I'm also surprised at the lack of competition. Belichick seems want to build up Stidham's confidence by only giving him competition from Hoyer and a couple of UDFA's. It seems sad that Stidham's confidence is so fragile.
     
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    Or we have no cap and BB believes in him and Hoyer so why waste extra resources on a QB when BB doesn't see many on the same level as Stidham.
    And there isn't a clipboard holder who doesn't know the offense like Hoyer.
     
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    Idk that's kinda a leap don't you think? I'm not too broken up we didn't land Dalton or Winston. Plus the cap space. We're biting the bullet this year.

    I think Bill knows Stidham is his best option at this time and if not next year will have more options through the draft.
     
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    I doubt Belichick is concerned at all with the fragility of Stidham’s confidence. In our Covid19 world, there really is no competition to be had outside of Hoyer. Absent meaningful offseason activities, a possibly truncated training camp and likely no preseason games, Stidham and Hoyer are the only two players immersed enough in the Patriots offense to actually serve as competition for the other. You could bring in an Andy Dalton or a Blake Bortles, but neither will be able to gain a grasp of the offense enough to truly compete against two guys who know the system and are talented enough to run it. So, why bother. Let Stidham and Hoyer compete and see who wins the job.
     
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    To infer that the Patriots not drafting a quarterback or signing a name free agent is a reflection on Stidham's confidence is absurd. If Belichick had any reason to doubt Stidham's own confidence in his ability to lead the Patriot offense, Bill would most likely have brought in a Newton or a high draft choice.
    Stidham is a young quarterback who would have fewer snaps with the first team offense if "competition" were brought in. Belichick, having made the commitment to him, is going to give him the best opportunity to succeed by having him practice and play as frequently as possible.
     
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    Umm...whaaa?
     
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  8. captain stone

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    He had to go, either way: because Little Billy wasn't following his recommendations; so why stay if your opinions aren't valued...Or Billy was indeed following his recommendations...
     
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    The draft has changed very little about next year's record, and that's fine. The last two years' drafts are what's key this year, along the OL, DL, and at WR.

    And thank goodness Andrews can come back. What a hole that would have been (and still could be).
     
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    The more I read about Stidham, the better I like him, I guess we don't have a choice, BB's rolling with him so we have to get behind him.
     
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    Pretty sparse! Probably not confusing this with Alabama’s facilities!
     
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    if this guy is responsible for our drafts the past 6 years I’m glad he’s gone. We’ve passed up on so much elite pro bowl offensive talent .
     
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    » Round 2: (No. 37 overall) Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir-Rhyne; (60) Josh Uche, LB, Michigan.
    » Round 3: (87) Anfernee Jennings, edge rusher, Alabama; (91) Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA; (101) Dalton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech.
    » Round 5: (159) Justin Rohrwasser, K, Marshall.
    » Round 6: (182) Mike Onwenu, OG, Michigan; (195) Justin Herron, OL, Wake Forest; (204) Cassh Maluia, LB, Wyoming.
    » Round 7: (230) Dustin Woodard, C, Memphis.

    PARR: No one's earned the right to be confident more than Bill Belichick, but this Patriots draft felt sort of ... well, arrogant. They didn't bother to address needs at quarterback or wide receiver and took a kicker when it was still early in the fifth round, making Rohrwasser the first specialist selected in 2020. Belichick has said the decision to pass on drafting a QB 10 times " wasn't by design," so that sounds like he didn't hate the talent at the position in this draft. He just didn't feel compelled to take one in a year where he's riding with Jarrett Stidham and Brian Hoyer. Alrighty then. The Pats did address several voids with their selections after trading out of Round 1 and picking up an extra pick, though. Dugger provides some much-needed youth at safety and while he comes from a small school, he looked like a guy who belonged when he faced all-star competition at the Senior Bowl. Uche, another Senior Bowl standout, appears to be a good fit with raw athletic tools that Belichick can mold. Jennings drew a comp to former Patriot Kyle Van Noy from colleague/draft guru Lance Zierlein, so it would seem he landed in the right place. New England had to add at tight end, and finally did in Round 3, trading up for both Asiasi and Keene, which were somewhat surprising decisions given that there were arguably better prospects at the position available at both spots. The decision to add depth to the O-line later on Day 3 made sense. Overall, there were things to like and things to question in this class.
     
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    I'm glad that this draft grade fits your narrative but now you have to explain to us why anyone on this board, including you, should give a FLYING F*CK about what these two dipsh*ts have to say about the draft.

    Lets start with Gennaro:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/gennaro-filice-91713335
    Point out to me the part of his biography that indicates that he is qualified to assess an NFL draft. I'll wait.

    Danny-boy Parr was even more of a challenge because he is so irrelevant that I cannot find a bio on him anywhere. All we have to go on this photo:
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    Based upon this headshot I'm going to make a educated guess that Mr. Parr's expertise includes one or more of the following:

    1. Top brands of Rocky Road Iced Cream.
    2. Quality assessment of belly button lint.
    3. How to not get laid until one's mid-20s.
    4. How to score a job at NFL.com through nepotism.

    Bring us an draft evaluation that matters, by someone whom we can take seriously and even then we should dismiss those grades until 2021 at the earliest.
     
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    So if I were to write a draft assessment and gave the Pats an A+ would that put everyone at ease?
     
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    Aw shucks, I bet you say that about all the boys...
     
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    The write up sounds a lot better than the grade. The grade seems to be low based more on the Pats decision to forego drafting a QB or WR rather than the players chosen. As for the TE position, we'll know in a couple of years whether they made the right choices as opposed to selecting some of the higher rated TEs, like Trautman. BB obviously liked his picks more than several TEs who had higher consensus ratings and I don't see any reason to believe these other TEs were clearly better at this point.
     
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