Do people REALLY think Membou, a RT, IS Better than Campbell at LT?

[WhatJustHappened]

What are we talking about?

 

[JayNM]

Were we talking about the most unhinged poster around?

hard fought competition this one

 

[Pape]

If you think people laughed at us for the Cole Strange pick, lets take Membou at 4 and see what happens...

 

[WhatJustHappened]

He's given up 4 sacks in 3 years, even with the bs TREX arms...
This is including the fact that he's been starting since he was a True Freshman, so 3 straight years against the BEST players on D, SEC is tough...he didn't play against chumps.
OMG, his arms are only 33".."ouch, he sucks, he's horrible"
He's been beating the crap out of the best in college football since he was a true freshman....yet he sux, not good enough...
Get fkn real, If Vrabel thinks he's a stud we'll take him, if not,he'll try and grab Conerly/ Ersery or someone else.
I just want someone that can man that position.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Were we talking about the most unhinged poster around?

hard fought competition this one

Not really bruh, you're right up there.

 

[PaulThePat]

In other words, do some "people" have a different opinion than you? Would seem so. It is allowed.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Were we talking about the most unhinged poster around?

hard fought competition this one

You're a fkn ******/ Idiot, I've told you this before.
Fkn Chump

 

[WhatJustHappened]

In other words, do some "people" have a different opinion than you? Would seem so. It is allowed.

I never said it wasn't, otherwise I would not have created this thread Paul.
Not exactly sure where you are.

 

[JayNM]

You're a fkn ******/ Idiot, I've told you this before.
Fkn Chump

Were we talking about the most unhinged poster around?

hard fought competition this one

I did kill 2 poster here, looking for the 3rd

And you sir have the utmost experience and know-how about ******ation FOR SURE

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Do y'all REALLY think moving a really good RT TO LT IS "No Problem"
I'm sick of hearing this GARBAGE, Wipe with your other hand.

 

[JayNM]

Imagine being so slow and ******ed you cant wipe your **** with your non-dominant hand

Shees such a pity

 

[Patsfan1645]

The two points that stick in my mind are:
Campbell has been a stud in college against some of the best in the country. Who will he face in the NFL over time.....guys who he faced in college. So he doesnt have "ideal" measurements, until I see that he cant play LT he remains a LT in my mind. As for Membou he is a strong right tackle with most of the measurements (not height). Could he play LT in the NFL....maybe, but until I see him play a nice sample of meaningful snaps at LT he remains a RT.

 

[Steve102]

Campbell is polarizing here. Just trade back, take the average player in Banks at 12-15. Then watch everyone whine when he’s just average. Or reach for Membou and everyone will whine when he’s an average LT instead of an all-pro RT. Or Simmons, then watch everyone whine when he’s Trent Brown 2.0.

It’s Campbell. Everything about that kid screams Vrabel culture fit.

 

[signbabybrady]

Yes.

Membou>Campbell

 

[RobertWeathers]

Campbell is polarizing here. Just trade back, take the average player in Banks at 12-15. Then watch everyone whine when he’s just average. Or reach for Membou and everyone will whine when he’s an average LT instead of an all-pro RT. Or Simmons, then watch everyone whine when he’s Trent Brown 2.0.

It’s Campbell. Everything about that kid screams Vrabel culture fit.

It's just so interesting how essentially a 1/2 of a inch in arm length has ~ 50% of the posters in the against category.

If Carter or Hunter aren't at #4, i'm good with Campbell or Graham with that pick. Either player will be a smart pick which will contribute Day 1.

 

[Water Boy]

It's just so interesting how essentially a 1/2 of a inch in arm length has ~ 50% of the posters in the against category.

If Carter or Hunter aren't at #4, i'm good with Campbell or Graham with that pick. Either player will be a smart pick which will contribute Day 1.

Graham only makes sense at 4 if Barmore can't go. Too rich for a rotational player.

 

[Rob0729]

I would rather draft Campbell over Membou, but I think it is a gross overdraft to draft either at 4. Neither are worthy of drafting that high.

Campbell has question marks on whether he can be successful at the NFL at LT and may end up being a guard.

Membou is a RT and even great RT don't necessarily has what it takes to make the transition to LT. If it was so easy to make a RT become LT, all the best RTs in the NFL would switch to LT because they would make more money because LT is a more valuable position.

Drafting a LT at #4, the discussion should be whether his ceiling is an All Pro or HOFer not whether he will play tackle or guard at the NFL level or which side of the line he will end up on.

 

[Wozzy]

It's just so interesting how essentially a 1/2 of a inch in arm length has ~ 50% of the posters in the against category.

If Carter or Hunter aren't at #4, i'm good with Campbell or Graham with that pick. Either player will be a smart pick which will contribute Day 1.

For me it’s less about arm length and more about total wingspan, width isn’t a result of arms alone, torso also plays a big part of it.

Will Campbell wingspan 77 3/8”
Armand Membou wingspan 82”
Kelvin Banks wingspan 84 3/8

I don’t see a massive difference between Campbell, Membou and Kelvin Banks. Banks didn’t bench so I question how strong he is, this matters when considering if he can step in and play as a rookie. He might need a year to get stronger, is that worth a high first round pick?

If you don’t have a conviction here and are dead set on taking a tackle… move back a little. But if you think one player is a can’t miss tackle just take him. Otherwise take another position and find a tackle at the top of the 2nd and double up by taking another raw athletic prospect later.

I don’t think Campbell with his limitations can’t do the job, but Joe Thuney could play tackle, so could Logan Mankins, so could Matt Light… then when they played the best defenses and defenders in the NFL they got exposed by speed power rushers. At guard they had no problems at all.

This is true of other positions as well, BB used Jon Jones to cover Tyreek Hill because Stephon Gilmore was too tall. The Broncos tried to cover Edelman with big tall Aqib Talib… big mistake, Edelman smoked him.

There’s a tool for every job, I don’t use my crescent wrench to hammer in a nail.

 

[Lansdowne]

The thing that intrigues me about Membou is at best you have LT locked down for the foreseeable future and at worst you have RT locked down for the foreseeable future. Both positions of great need. He’s more physically gifted than Campbell and has a higher ceiling. But he’s an unknown at LT because he played exclusively at RT at Mizzou which is the risk. That and being shorter than your typical NFL LT. With Campbell the concern is how his lack of length will hold up against pro pass rushers, and that his stance isn’t ideal for a guard either, so it’s LT or bust for him. Both guys are risky and would be mid-1st considerations at best in most other draft classes. If I had to pick between the two I’d go with Campbell because he’s at least shown he can play LT at the highest level of college so there’s hope he can do that at the pro level as well. I’d maybe feel better about gambling on Membou if there were a solid bridge option at LT on the team now, but there isn’t.

 

[mgteich]

Campbell is polarizing here. Just trade back, take the average player in Banks at 12-15. Then watch everyone whine when he’s just average. Or reach for Membou and everyone will whine when he’s an average LT instead of an all-pro RT. Or Simmons, then watch everyone whine when he’s Trent Brown 2.0.

It’s Campbell. Everything about that kid screams Vrabel culture fit.

Trading back and taking Banks is not a terrible idea. Banks is hardly an "average" player.