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  1. Ivan

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    Unfortunately i think this is more a matter of Patriot fans grasping for some good news. Dennard still has an uphill battle in any contest of credibility with the Lincoln police and if they claim he wasn't blowing hard enough and refused to do so I would guess a judge would side with them and go along with their claim he refused the breathalyzer. I am not aware of any limitations on how many times the police can demand that a person being tested continue to blow into the breathalyzer and short of that they will consider his refusal to continue to blow into the device a refusal. I hope I'm wrong and they throw it out but i really doubt it and believe that the judge will consider this a violation of his probation regardless of Dennard's claims.
     
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    Ya but the thing with Felger is he'll come on today and say that he doesn't believe this for a second because Dennard is probably being told what to say by his attorney and the fact that he was still in the position to get himself pulled over in the place he was arrested for hitting a cop shows he has bad judgement and needs to be cut.
     
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    Cut him. Crucify him. Castrate him. Patriot way. Patriot brand. :rolleyes:

    He's a 20-something dummy who is a pretty good CB. I want him at RCB this year.
     
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    That's how it was before dash cams - in a he said-she said, the courts went with the cops' version. Now cops back up what they say with dash cams. Makes for a more solid case but it is a two-edged sword: it becomes suspicious if they don't have video and audio on it, especially for a field sobriety test.

    So it boils down to is there dash cam footage, and it so, what's on it.
     
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    So how come the cops didn't put in the report that he failed the field sobriety test? You'd think they would if he did.
     
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    Because he didn't fail it. Just like he didn't fail the breathalyzer though he took it twice. So the officer cited him for "Failure to Comply" because Dennard supposedly didn't blow into it hard enough.

    What is interesting further is that they didn't get a blood test from Dennard where he was booked..
     
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    I doubt that. As far as I could tell, there was always an implied "if this is legit" qualifier. Only the people who said, "a DUI is no big deal" had the same position no matter the outcome, one that I still disagree with, FWIW. But if it turns out to be the workings of an overexuberant cop, I'll welcome Fonz back with open arms.
     
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    So you know how to work the intox5000? When there is not enough air going through the machine it will show lack of flow. You can't fool the machine, it knows when you are trying to trick it.

    Once your deemed a refusal your a refusal there is no chance for blood. Also blood is usually requested when drugs or elevated levels of prescriptions meds are onboard.
     
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    I have zero experience here but could you ask for a blood test instead? I would be very reluctant to trust a breathalyzer.
     
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    Same here. I had a police friend who had a breathalyzer, and so another friend and I both took it. We had been matching drink for drink, and blew the same BAC... problem is, he's 200 pounds heavier than me (not an exaggeration). Not saying everywhere uses the same type, or maybe we weren't doing it right, but it was drastic enough that I wouldn't bet my life, license, and freedom on its results.
     
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    It is not up to the person arrested it is up to the officer what test is done if you agree. I also think your defense attorney would much rather you submit to breath then blood.

    For example if a person over did it with their prescription meds or they smoked weed, It is going to show in the blood work. Now you have to fight two substances instead of one. With breath you just have one battle on your hand instead of possibly two.

    Where blood is taken without consent is a felony level DWI or a MV accident were serious PI then you get a search warrant for blood results. Most states have a law that you can subpoena the hospitals blood work.

    It is also obvious when someone is not trying to blow into the machine.
     
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    From AWTE over on Patriots Planet, who is a police officer by trade.

    I'd encourage everyone to check out this thread for his contributions starting around post #300.
     
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    Mostly correct some wrong. Once your deemed a refusal your a refusal. Reason being it takes out the question of "what if the cop messed with the machine to try and get blood from him instead". So when your a refusal or a refusal there is no more testing.

    And it is ONE LEG stand not one LEGGED stand.

    Another test that I see most of the guys use is Romberg balance test. You have them place their arms away from their body palms up. You have them close their eyes and put their head back and they have to do this for 30 seconds with 6 seconds give or take on each side. Really drunk people are going 48 to 55 seconds. Good test with not a lot of movement.
     
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    It's also "you're", not "your", if you want to get technical.
     
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    Unless you weigh -20 pounds, you need to get your friend on a diet for his own sake.
     
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    AWTE's posts are always worth reading

    (AllWorldTightEnd)
     
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    Yup I want to get technical so lets get technical. Anything else?
     
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    Since it's Friday afternoon, I'll give you a pass on punctuation. ;)

    Whenever I read about sobriety tests, all I can think of is this:

    The Man With Two Brains -- drunk test is hard - YouTube
     
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    Didn't blow hard enough? Did they ask him to wear a wig as well...:drum:
     
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