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Miguel said:These are your words in 2 earlier posts in this thread":
"I dont know that I'd call Givens a deep threat, but he is excellent in the intermediate zones (12-18 yards) and gets good run after catch on those routes.
I just have a feeling when he hits the open market, he is going to get 'Product of the System" treatment.
Many teams put too much weight on measurables, especially at the WR postion, and the truth is by measurables there are 100 better WRs in the NFL than Givens, maybe more.
Since we don't weigh measuarables so heavily, he may get the best offer he can get from us.
Remmber he was a RFA this year, and received no interest. Anyone considering him a big contract guy would have pursued him then too, unless they see more in him a year later. I doubt that because he looks exactly the same to me as last year."
"Im not saying dont sign him.
Im saying at his position he may not be a sought after FA.
Why did Patten get that contract? Speed. He was the fastest guy on the Patriots.
Invariably teams are looking for excellent speed, or size, or quickness in a WR. They want "The athlete". Givens wont stand up that yardstick very well. Of all the positions on the field, raw skills are valued the highest at WR."
I wrote:
I could not possibly disagree with Andy more on his contentions that Givens "may get the best offer he can get from us (the Patriots) and that Givens "may not be a sought after FA".
Even though I neglected to put a quotation mark after the word us, I feel that I quote you accurately. My quotes were cut and pasted from your prior posts. IMO, "he may not be a sought after FA" is consistent with your point - "Givens isn't the type of WR that teams pay huge money for".
OK. You quoted me properly. Its hard to have the time to read through all the posts, and while clearly I said those they werent my primary point. Apologize for questioning your post.