Celtics 2023 - 2024 Discussion

[One-If-By-Sea]

If Joe's A plan doesn't work he's useless. He is incapable of making the proper adjustments.

I agree. Are there in game adjustments? I think Mazzula waits to talk with Stevens after the game and then adjusts in the next game per Stevens' instructions.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Celtics will win this series in 6 but aren’t going all the way

 

[aluminum seats]

Celtics will win this series in 6 but aren’t going all the way

I think their talent gets them to the finals, although I have to admit I'm looking at the Knicks because they seem so much tougher and better coached. But the Celtics' talent should win out. Then you see what happens, assuming it's the nuggets that will be a tough road for sure

Or they lose to the heat in seven and we try to figure out where it ranks on the list of historic chokes

 

[Real fan 02]

Butler's out, so it's either the Bulls or the Heat without Butler in Round 1

There was no excuse for having any issues in round one before, but even more now

This team can be frustrating at times.. 54 wins.. no butler or scary Terry and you just let the heat play HORSE from 3 last night. It is games like this is why I feel we will be held back from banner 18..

 

[Real fan 02]

Celtics will win this series in 6 but aren’t going all the way

I've felt this myself.. 6 games is to much with no butler and rozier.. as great as this team was during the regular season something is still missing with this team..

 

[Kdo5]

I would say folks need to calm down a little over the loss and I would because I don’t think KP is going to **** the bed like that again.

My worry is about Mazzula though, he could seriously derail us.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I would say folks need to calm down a little over the loss and I would because I don’t think KP is going to **** the bed like that again.

My worry is about Mazzula though, he could seriously derail us.

Agree. Just a bad game. MIA came out with more intensity and desperation than we did.

Celts have responded all year after bad losses. Need to see how the next 2 games go before we classify them as soft front-runners and Maz sucks

 

[turkeyneck]

I've felt this myself.. 6 games is to much with no butler and rozier.. as great as this team was during the regular season something is still missing with this team..

The key missing ingredient is brains. Mazzula and the Js don't seem to have enough to learn from past patterns of fail. Other teams, with smarter coaches and players, even though with lesser talent, will exploit that. I'll be surprised if they get past MIA; I'll be stunned if they go all the way.

 

[Jim Beankie]

NE Sports Fan Me: They f'ing suck nads and won't get out of the 1st rnd.

Rational Me: Why do you care about sports so much?

Rational Sports Fan Me: They shot 54% from 3 and only won by 10. If they shot 44.2% from 3 MIA would've lost. They'll be done in at least 6 unless Steve Kerr (45.4% career 3%) infiltrates the whole MIA team's spirit. Hubert Davis in 2nd place's 44.1% won't cut it.

 

[denverpatsfan]

This team has been soft all season long. Still would be nice to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals versus the Knicks.

 

[Real fan 02]

The key missing ingredient is brains. Mazzula and the Js don't seem to have enough to learn from past patterns of fail. Other teams, with smarter coaches and players, even though with lesser talent, will exploit that. I'll be surprised if they get past MIA; I'll be stunned if they go all the way.

I don't think the players felt Miami could make the 3 at the Rate they did last night. Yes KP had a down night, but other has been the X factor all year. This team won 64 games and actually should have won more! Muzzulla is a good coach, I can't put it all on him. This team is made up of veterans think about it the Js haven't missed the playoffs since they came into the league. They are 7,8 year veterans.. in thier prime now is the time.

 

[Real fan 02]

This team has been soft all season long. Still would be nice to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals versus the Knicks.

The Knicks have a toughness, a gritty playing style that can absolutely carry them. On the flipside Miami made what 30 3s and only won by 10.. any other team it's a 30 point blow out.

 

[Kdo5]

I don't think the players felt Miami could make the 3 at the Rate they did last night. Yes KP had a down night, but other has been the X factor all year. This team won 64 games and actually should have won more! Muzzulla is a good coach, I can't put it all on him. This team is made up of veterans think about it the Js haven't missed the playoffs since they came into the league. They are 7,8 year veterans.. in thier prime now is the time.

Mazzula has a good basketball mind but can’t make adjustments and has a stubborn personality that borders on denial at times.

 

[Real fan 02]

Mazzula has a good basketball mind but can’t make adjustments and has a stubborn personality that borders on denial at times.

I will agree with that. That's fair. Just some posters go a little hard on him not being a good coach he's a very good coach in the league.

He will need to make some adjustments becuase that is what great teams do in every sport. The players also based of thier body language didn't appear to be up for the game yesterday. So they perform another dud they will find themselves in another 7 game series.

 

[Real fan 02]

I agree. Are there in game adjustments? I think Mazzula waits to talk with Stevens after the game and then adjusts in the next game per Stevens' instructions.

Agreed. Wich is why I miss Ime. That team under Ime had a defens tenacity, they just seemed tougher. I know they still are favorites but this is win or go home time.

 

[aluminum seats]

Agreed. Wich is why I miss Ime. That team under Ime had a defens tenacity, they just seemed tougher. I know they still are favorites but this is win or go home time.

I agree. Still stings the Celtics were up with less than five minutes to go against Golden State where they would've been taking a 3-1 series lead in the finals. They were close that year

 

[Real fan 02]

I agree. Still stings the Celtics were up with less than five minutes to go against Golden State where they would've been taking a 3-1 series lead in the finals. They were close that year

Yes, they were. And not to rehash but I'm and Muzzulla have 2 totally different personalities. Wouldn't you think if you took over a coach of the celtics you'd want to keep things in place that actually worked. Miami with or without butler worries me.

 

[jimnance]

Yes, they were. And not to rehash but I'm and Muzzulla have 2 totally different personalities. Wouldn't you think if you took over a coach of the celtics you'd want to keep things in place that actually worked. Miami with or without butler worries me.

Can't really compare the two.
Udoka was highly experienced and on his way to becoming one of the elite coaches in the league. He f'd that up with that dumb **** he pulled.
Joe is very young, inexperienced and was just thrown into the fire with at the last minute with no preparation.
Overall, I think he's done a decent job this year. He's made plenty of mistakes but he's also made plenty of good moves. The potential to be an excellent HC is there.
It takes time and experience.

 

[Real fan 02]

Can't really compare the two.
Udoka was highly experienced and on his way to becoming one of the elite coaches in the league. He f'd that up with that dumb **** he pulled.
Joe is very young, inexperienced and was just thrown into the fire with at the last minute with no preparation.
Overall, I think he's done a decent job this year. He's made plenty of mistakes but he's also made plenty of good moves. The potential to be an excellent HC is there.
It takes time and experience.

Joe was on the staff, has a wealth of knowledge of the game from his time as a player in college ,and I believe his father was a coach I believe. Your right Ime came up as a NBA player and under pop in SA for many years. Wins and losses are what your judged by in overall view as a coach. But if Joe doesn't get it done this season I can see ownership pulling a mark Jackson on him.

Yeah it was dumb, but could have been handled differently. Wasn't like it was a Harvey weinstein or Bill Cosby type ****.

Was consensual.. but anyway... on the player's.. do you see the kid from Minnesota Edwards?.. he has what tatum doesn't a killer instinct. Tatum is a fantastic player and a even better man off the court. But he's not a dog! All the greats had that Trait in them.. bird, Jordan, magic, to name a few. That is what is missing from his personality as a player.