Bucs DC invites fans to advise him on using Revis...

[Brady6]

What a disaster...

http://teamstre.am/15Okn7e

 

[chasa]

and he should be fired.

you don't cater to what the fans want as a coach, you do whats best for the team, and if fans truly know whats best better then the person doing the coaching that coach needs to not be a coach anymore

 

[Ring 6]

and he should be fired.

you don't cater to what the fans want as a coach, you do whats best for the team, and if fans truly know whats best better then the person doing the coaching that coach needs to not be a coach anymore

He was being a wise *****

 

[jah]

Not much of an invitation, more like when a teacher can't control one student in the class and says, "Oh, I'M sorry. Do YOU want to teach the class?"

 

[Ozymandias]

Bedard had a stat up that said the Bucs only used Revis in man coverage for two snaps against the Eagles. That team is a joke of a mess.

Still though, gotta thank 'em for giving the Patriots Talib for peanuts while they gave up a first rounder and $16M per for a guy they don't even use to the best of his abilities. LOL

 

[supafly]

Bedard had a stat up that said the Bucs only used Revis in man coverage for two snaps against the Eagles. That team is a joke of a mess.

Still though, gotta thank 'em for giving the Patriots Talib for peanuts while they gave up a first rounder and $16M per for a guy they don't even use to the best of his abilities. LOL

I'm interested in seeing how this plays out, and if they retain Revis next year on their year to year plan at 16m again.

Not meaning to question a proven coach like Schiano--even if he's not doing too well this year in the NFL, but wouldn't a more physical man coverage scheme not only be better suited for their specific secondary, but also allow the front seven guys to be more aggressive too? Kind of weird how they are being used at the moment if you ask me.

 

[ausbacker]

I'm interested in seeing how this plays out, and if they retain Revis next year on their year to year plan at 16m again.

Not meaning to question a proven coach like Schiano--even if he's not doing too well this year in the NFL, but wouldn't a more physical man coverage scheme not only be better suited for their specific secondary, but also allow the front seven guys to be more aggressive too? Kind of weird how they are being used at the moment if you ask me.

Schiano's coaching is one of the single biggest reasons an exceptionally talented team like the Buccaneers have started 2013 winless (much like the 2012 Chiefs). I expect Schiano to be given his marching orders at the end of the season and a coach who will put his players in a position to succeed (especially on D) brought in. It is as if Schiano believes that he is still in college football forgetting he has pro athletes not kids.

Revis as a zone corner is just dumb.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

I say the Buc fans should say trade him to the New England Patriots.....but I don't see those fans agreeing with me on that

 

[goheels22002]

I say the Buc fans should say trade him to the New England Patriots.....but I don't see those fans agreeing with me on that

Revis' six-year $96 million contract would be a bit of an obstacle. No guranteed money, though, so maybe he'd be willing to restructure. It's a stupid contract for both sides, actually.

Breaking down Darrelle Revis' contract - ESPN

 

[vyrago]

I say the Buc fans should say trade him to the New England Patriots.....but I don't see those fans agreeing with me on that

I'm curious as to why so many of you think that two second clip of Edelman walking by TB's high five is funny. If it were on the Jets' list you'd know the QB is being disrespected, but I doubt that's the case here.
Do you just enjoy watching our QB being made to look a bit foolish?

 

[Kontradiction]

He should probably take their advice, to be honest. What mentally challenged individual would spend what they spent to acquire one of the best, if not the best, cover corners in the last decade only to use him in a zone-heavy scheme? And yes, that was a rhetorical question...

 

[Rob0729]

It ain't rocket science. You don't acquire one of the best man CBs of all time and run near exclusively zone defense. I have said this before and I will say it again, it is like buying a Ferrari and never driving over 30 MPH.

 

[Ring 6]

I'm interested in seeing how this plays out, and if they retain Revis next year on their year to year plan at 16m again.

Not meaning to question a proven coach like Schiano--even if he's not doing too well this year in the NFL, but wouldn't a more physical man coverage scheme not only be better suited for their specific secondary, but also allow the front seven guys to be more aggressive too? Kind of weird how they are being used at the moment if you ask me.

Playing man because you have one great man player is poor coaching. Man is only as good as you worst coverage guy.

 

[Rob0729]

Playing man because you have one great man player is poor coaching. Man is only as good as you worst coverage guy.

Giving up a first round pick and paying top CB money for an elite CB and not have the defense to use him correctly is poor general managing. If you don't have the players to run a man defense at least say 30% of the time, you don't mortgage the farm on an elite man cover CB.

In more pure zone scheme, they would have been better off going cheap and getting Asante Samuel who has the skill set to be a good zone cover CB. I know Samuel is not the player he once was, but he wouldn't be any worse in zone as Revis has so far this season. Revis is not really built for the zone.

 

[MassPats38]

He should probably take their advice, to be honest. What mentally challenged individual would spend what they spent to acquire one of the best, if not the best, cover corners in the last decade only to use him in a zone-heavy scheme? And yes, that was a rhetorical question...

I don't know if its comparable man for man in the secondary, but wasn't this mess already addressed by the Iggles and the use of Nnamdi Asomugha?

 

[Rob0729]

I don't know if its comparable man for man in the secondary, but wasn't this mess already addressed by the Iggles and the use of Nnamdi Asomugha?

Asomugha I think is a different situation. I think his reputation and lack of talent of players around him in Oakland made him look far better than he really was. Asomugha in Oakland used to line up at the RCB slot exclusively and usually went against the #2 or #3 WR. Teams stopped throwing in his direction because they could pick apart the Raiders' D with their #1 WR going up against the Raiders' LCB. When Asomugha went to the Eagles, he was exposed because teams started to throw on him. He barely made the 49ers' squad this season and has done nothing.

Revis, on the other hand, is a proven stud. The Jets would have him shadow the opposing team's #1 receiver (like the Pats have been doing with Talib) and covered him with little help from the safeties. We know Revis isn't just hype and teams just not throwing his way out of respect to his reputation.

 

[Nikolai]

They should use Revis to trade for the Pats sixth round pick. That's what I'd do.

 

[Ring 6]

Giving up a first round pick and paying top CB money for an elite CB and not have the defense to use him correctly is poor general managing. If you don't have the players to run a man defense at least say 30% of the time, you don't mortgage the farm on an elite man cover CB.

In more pure zone scheme, they would have been better off going cheap and getting Asante Samuel who has the skill set to be a good zone cover CB. I know Samuel is not the player he once was, but he wouldn't be any worse in zone as Revis has so far this season. Revis is not really built for the zone.

The intelligence of the trade is an entirely different argument than the best way to run your defense.
Revis is excellent in zone too, its just that his impact is lessened.

 

[terabthia2]

Schiano will be gone before the season ends. Probably sooner rather than later. You can see nobody is on the same page with that team.

 

[Rob0729]

The intelligence of the trade is an entirely different argument than the best way to run your defense.
Revis is excellent in zone too, its just that his impact is lessened.

I think Revis is decent in the zone. I think he struggles with zone responsibilities at times. I don't think he is anything special in the zone.

I do realize it is a different argument, but it is a real discussion point when discussing how the Bucs are utilizing Revis and the flack they are getting for not making him a stud player.