Brady MVP race

[venecol]

This idiot thinks that TDs is a per attempt metric instead of a per game one. LMAO
Porksley is a moron.

Can someone explain to this incel that TDs are only the result of the attempts that actually resulted in a TD? IOW, you can pass 50 times and score 3 TDs or pass 30 times and score 3 TDs.

Wentz: 516 attempts, 27 TDs
Burrow: 520 attempts, 34 TDs
Mac: 521 attempts, 22 TDs
Prescott: 596 attempts, 37 TDs
Mahomes: 658 attempts, 37 TDs

 

[PatsWSB47]

More meaningless troll posts from Porksley. Rodgers would NEVER have as many attempts or even come close to it. Rodgers most attempts were 610 in 2016 (only time he went above 600). He's ranked #50 in the all time attempts list. This is sheer fantasy and total BS

The thing is he will move the goal posts as necessary. Earlier in the year when Brady was on pace to break Manning's TD record and run away by a mile for MVP, he didn't play the "if" game. He resisted and chose to discredit Brady by saying he was on a stacked team. As weapon after weapon disappeared for Brady he had to look for other excuses. He's rooting for Rogers, not because he thinks he's the MVP. He just doesn't want Brady to get it.

 

[PatsWSB47]

This idiot thinks that TDs is a per attempt metric instead of a per game one. LMAO
Porksley is a moron.

Can someone explain to this incel that TDs are only the result of the attempts that actually resulted in a TD? IOW, you can pass 50 times and score 3 TDs or pass 30 times and score 3 TDs.

Wentz: 516 attempts, 27 TDs
Burrow: 520 attempts, 34 TDs
Mac: 521 attempts, 22 TDs
Prescott: 596 attempts, 37 TDs
Mahomes: 658 attempts, 37 TDs

Not worth it. It would be easier to teach my dog how to drive.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

This idiot thinks that TDs is a per attempt metric instead of a per game one. LMAO
Porksley is a moron.

Can someone explain to this incel that TDs are only the result of the attempts that actually resulted in a TD? IOW, you can pass 50 times and score 3 TDs or pass 30 times and score 3 TDs.

Wentz: 516 attempts, 27 TDs
Burrow: 520 attempts, 34 TDs
Mac: 521 attempts, 22 TDs
Prescott: 596 attempts, 37 TDs
Mahomes: 658 attempts, 37 TDs

Do you want to venture to guess how many touchdowns Rodgers would have over Brady (regular season) based on career starts if Rodgers were to play as many games as Brady? Here I'll save you some time:

Rodgers rate of 2.17 TDs per career start would result in him having 685 regular season TDs, which is significantly higher than Brady's 624.

In the playoffs, Rodgers rate of 2.25 TDs/start would result in him having 101 TDs compared to Brady's 83.

 

[Guts]

It is close I think if the stats were reversed we'd be defending Brady still. I guess it's just a matter on what stats the voters deem important and circumstances

 

[Nehalem]

It's common sense that the more you throw a game, the more likely you are going to throw for more TDs. One player in the MVP race has a significantly higher number of attempts this season.

ANd if we are talking 50+ attempts, Roethlisberger, Moon, and Dak have a higher winning percentage...

In fact none of the players you mention of a higher win%



The only player with a higher win% is shockingly Donovan McNabb

 

[aluminum seats]

Just going by the betting odds, Rodgers is a pretty big favorite at this point. Of course upsets happen.

Cooper Kupp anyone? 25-1!

 

[SHOWTIME15]

In fact none of the players you mention of a higher win%



The only player with a higher win% is shockingly Donovan McNabb

I was looking at the wrong column. IN any event, the number of wins with 50+ throws has nothing to do with projected touchdown totals and yards, which is what I was talking about...

 

[venecol]

In fact none of the players you mention of a higher win%



The only player with a higher win% is shockingly Donovan McNabb

The moron is probably reading GP as wins and W as losses. He's the dumbest person on the forum.

 

[Pats1971]

Do you want to venture to guess how many touchdowns Rodgers would have over Brady (regular season) based on career starts if Rodgers were to play as many games as Brady? Here I'll save you some time:

Rodgers rate of 2.17 TDs per career start would result in him having 685 regular season TDs, which is significantly higher than Brady's 624.

In the playoffs, Rodgers rate of 2.25 TDs/start would result in him having 101 TDs compared to Brady's 83.

So if we lived in a fantasy world, then some make believe thing would happen? Ok, thanks for your troll input. Maybe it has to Brady actually handing off on the one yard line, but more then that, you cannot say this would happen if this guy did this or that, because it didnt happen, so you are assuming a whole lot just to diminish Brady. Can you just go ahead and admit you were not a pats fan until Brady left the team, because honestly I have seen dihard Brady haters not try to trash him as much as you do.

 

[Pats1971]

In fact none of the players you mention of a higher win%



The only player with a higher win% is shockingly Donovan McNabb

So dippy said that the QB, that the team relies on more so he has to throw more is less of an MVP, is this his take on this?

 

[Pats1971]

It is close I think if the stats were reversed we'd be defending Brady still. I guess it's just a matter on what stats the voters deem important and circumstances

Well one thing to look at is. Brady has faced way way harder defenses. brady has also had to deal with major injury hits all over his offense this year. Defense too and that the tema relies way more on Brady. Rodgers hands off down the field and then throws a 1 yard td while Brady throws down the field and hands off on the one.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The moron is probably reading GP as wins and W as losses. He's the dumbest person on the forum.

Ween't you the same guy who said that touchdowns/game was more important than touchdowns/attempts and I just proved to you Rodgers numbers would be better regardless? You couldn't even respond...

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Well one thing to look at is. Brady has faced way way harder defenses. brady has also had to deal with major injury hits all over his offense this year. Defense too and that the tema relies way more on Brady. Rodgers hands off down the field and then throws a 1 yard td while Brady throws down the field and hands off on the one.

Against common opponents, Brady is 1-4 and Rodgers 4-1 (New Orleans, Chicago, Washington, LA)...

And the Bucs have 18 rushing TDs while the packers had 13...not a huge difference.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Against common opponents, Brady is 1-4 and Rodgers 4-1 (New Orleans, Chicago, Washington, LA)...

And the Bucs have 18 rushing TDs while the packers had 13...not a huge difference.

Moving the goal posts again. Common opponents have nothing to do with the point he made. Rodgers faced easier defences. That's the point.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Moving the goal posts again. Common opponents have nothing to do with the point he made. Rodgers faced easier defences. That's the point.

All I know is that against the same teams Rodgers had a significantly higher winning percentage. That is, against the same defenses Rodgers was better. And he didn't define what he meant by a "good defense." It could mean teams with fewest yards allowed per game or points allowed.

 

[PatsWSB47]

All I know is that against the same teams Rodgers had a significantly higher winning percentage. That is, against the same defenses Rodgers was better. And he didn't define what he meant by a "good defense." It could mean teams with fewest yards allowed per game or points allowed.

Look it. Rogers is a great quarterback. He might win the regular season MVP. Ive seen stats in posts that show Rogers faced easier pass defenses. They've been posted with links in this forum. Jeezus if someone said Brady was taller than Rogers you'd say Brady stood next to shorter people. Why don't you start an Aaron Rogers Packers forum?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Look it. Rogers is a great quarterback. He might win the regular season MVP. Ive seen stats in posts that show Rogers faced easier pass defenses. They've been posted with links in this forum. Jeezus if someone said Brady was taller than Rogers you'd say Brady stood next to shorter people. Why don't you start an Aaron Rogers Packers forum?

They both are deserving of MVP. My point is that forum posters are wrong when dismissing Rodgers' candidacy. He deserves it as much as Brady.

 

[bigballas]

Do you want to venture to guess how many touchdowns Rodgers would have over Brady (regular season) based on career starts if Rodgers were to play as many games as Brady? Here I'll save you some time:

Rodgers rate of 2.17 TDs per career start would result in him having 685 regular season TDs, which is significantly higher than Brady's 624.

In the playoffs, Rodgers rate of 2.25 TDs/start would result in him having 101 TDs compared to Brady's 83.

thats not how it works. game was different in 2001-2009 and no one was really throwing 40+ TD regularly. you need to standardize the time and look at common period...

here's one of the ways to look at it:

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[Pats1971]

They both are deserving of MVP. My point is that forum posters are wrong when dismissing Rodgers' candidacy. He deserves it as much as Brady.

Well no he doesnt, but thanks for stopping by. I mean realistically Brady could win mvp every year. I know you dont watch their games, but he is flat out there teaching school to these young guys. There is no more valuable QB on any team. He is basically the coach and the QB. Rodgers is out there handing the ball off and then throwing 1 yard td passes. Sorry its not even close