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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.1.) Paying Thuney 15M AAV won't look as bad in 2-3 seasons when the team gets better.
I hate tanking because you never know who the next guy is in that environment. You also never know how far from winning it all the team is.
An above average team can win it all if the cards fall right. Sometimes it's just a matter of being the healthiest team.
Also you'll never know if the guy you tanked for is the next big bust, the next average jag or worth the pick.
Go for it every year because otherwise you'll never know if it could have been your year.
Honestly I have never understood this argument, which people seem to use to justify overpaying a player. The idea that the cap hit is front loaded and is more manageable down the road as the cap increases and others begin to make more does not make a lot of sense and would basically justify signing anyone at any price. The market is where it is right now.
I don’t see any way Thuney $15MM is a good move for the team. The internal pay scale has Gilmore at about that number, and the on-field impact between Gilmore and Thuney is not even close. I think there’s no way Bill “would do it again” with the Mankins situation and paying him huge bucks after the cringe-worthy failures of Mankins on the biggest stage. The offense was absolutely horrendous last year, and Thuney played at an all-pro level. That he didn’t even move the needle, IMO, shows just how valuable that position is compared to others.
If we want to talk about a move that sets them up for the future, then taking the high comp pick is the best move, IMO.
Maybe call it a reload like the Sox are doing and gear up for next year and beyond.If Brady is not back, we don't fix the patriots...this year. Bill should blow up the team and start over. Stidham isn't winning us a SB next year anyway. I'd like to see a youth movement.
Why doesn’t every team do this?
But is Belichick going to be around long enough to take advantage of a blowup? I don’t think he’s interested in spending his age 68 and 69 seasons with 10 wins total. If the goal is to get the all time win record (43 to tie, 44 to pass), then even 9 wins per season has him coaching at age 72. If you throw a rough couple of seasons in there, and he could be looking at not getting the record until 74.If Brady is not back, we don't fix the patriots...this year. Bill should blow up the team and start over. Stidham isn't winning us a SB next year anyway. I'd like to see a youth movement.
But is Belichick going to be around long enough to take advantage of a blowup? I don’t think he’s interested in spending his age 68 and 69 seasons with 10 wins total. If the goal is to get the all time win record (43 to tie, 44 to pass), then even 9 wins per season has him coaching at age 72. If you throw a rough couple of seasons in there, and he could be looking at not getting the record until 74.
I’m thinking in terms of a race against retirement, at least as a coach. Without Brady, the best chance at winning a Super Bowl in the next 5 years probably comes from the strategy of blowing things up, making a ton of draft picks in 2020, and drafting a QB top 5 in 2021, who then is in his second, third, and fourth years (not a rookie, but also still not expensive) in 2022-2024.Where else do you think he has options to go to keep that win total going? I know tone is hard to take on a forum, so I just want to clarify that this is a serious hypothetical question. I’m curious.
I guess I don’t understand why Stidham is a joke on this board, trash even. We really haven’t even seen him play. If he’s so terrible, why on earth did they waste a 4th round draft pick on him?
If,I say if Brady leaves ( IMO it is not gonna happen ) no QB taken either via draft or FA will lead the Pats to SB in next few years. Sorry but only Brady is so familiar with the playbook and I cannot imagine a new QB being a part of Pats' organization who can handle the playbook immediately. Additionally the change of scenery in our offense will be an obstacle as well.
My bottom line is: if TB12 stays and given a legit weapons in offense he is able to get a ring. If he is out we have to think about rebuilding a team.
In a couple of years of course it can but I meant let's say next 2 years. If Brady signs 2 years deal and will be equipped with legit offensive weapons there is a chance we still be a contender. Without Brady the same 2 years are going to be sets of experiments with another QB IMO ( or Stidham who is familiar with the system can do some magic).I disagree with the idea that the team cannot develop a system for whatever QB we have in a couple of years.
Honestly I have never understood this argument, which people seem to use to justify overpaying a player. The idea that the cap hit is front loaded and is more manageable down the road as the cap increases and others begin to make more does not make a lot of sense and would basically justify signing anyone at any price. The market is where it is right now.
I don’t see any way Thuney $15MM is a good move for the team. The internal pay scale has Gilmore at about that number, and the on-field impact between Gilmore and Thuney is not even close. I think there’s no way Bill “would do it again” with the Mankins situation and paying him huge bucks after the cringe-worthy failures of Mankins on the biggest stage. The offense was absolutely horrendous last year, and Thuney played at an all-pro level. That he didn’t even move the needle, IMO, shows just how valuable that position is compared to others.
If we want to talk about a move that sets them up for the future, then taking the high comp pick is the best move, IMO.