Brady forcing balls to other receivers when Amendola is open?

[coolguy]

Brady does like to force it to his security blankets just like every other quarterback in the league.

Thompkins, boyce, and dobson will most likely surpass amendola on brady's favorite list.......IF EDLEMAN DOESN'T LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kontradiction]

bottom line is this .. you can have the all 88 film .. we don't know, the media thinks they know, and will never know .. as to who is "wide open", who's assignment is what? .. Who "missed" a block? Unless you are a player, or coach on the team, you will never know ... .. the rest is hearsay, and speculation ..

Not only has this line of thinking been debunked before, but you can't seriously tell me that you can't tell which receiver is and isn't open by looking at film without innate knowledge of the playbook.

 

[Ring 6]

Once a truth, now a myth.
And for the past half dozen years...BINKY
And this year.......Trust

The open guy myth died a long time ago

No it did't we just found players who get open often

 

[PatsBoy12]

I'm not going to say that I think Brady is intentionally not throwing Amendola the football. That would be stupid considering he has guys still learning on the job at the moment. But I have seen some plays where Amendola has broken open and not received the football. That, as some have suggested, could just be a case of Brady going through the progressions quicker than he can get open. Who knows?

I think Amendola is still lacking the burst that makes him a special player. That groin or whatever it is is severely impacting his play. I look for a more explosive player next season after he's had a whole off season to recover (assuming this doesn't become a nagging thing). We'll just have to wait and see what happens, especially now that the big guy in the middle went down with the knee.

 

[SVN]

Many times brady has not thrown to open WRs. He has thrown to Gronk in triple coverage and now to edelman and vereen. Part of it is on brady, doesnt seem them and part Iam guessing is lack of trust in the player and oline and he needs to go where he feels more sure.
Dont know about nick underhill but I dont give ben volin much credence. He just repeats what everyone else says .

 

[Crononaut]

This is the point though. When pressure's coming and you're about to get hit, you can't go through progressions.

I agree with this. I'll admit I don't know enough about how an offense runs to know the significance of progressions on a given play as it relates to their standing in the O. My logic would be you design plays for your best/most consistent players, and therefore they will be your first progression more often - if not open when Tom needs the player to be, he moves on to his next progression. And obviously pressure leads to a check down to get it out ASAP.

Also of course you will mix up who your first read is because you'd get pretty predictable otherwise. But in general, is my thinking correct here? Again I've never had the privilege of playing football growing up so I can see Tom making his reads (sometimes), see people getting open and assume they weren't a primary read, but I don't really know what it means in terms of the depth chart, I guess, of the WRs.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I find it hard to imagine Brady wouldn't throw to an open receiver.

he's not seeing the field that well this year.

 

[PATRlOT]

Stupid observations by those analysts

 

[coolguy]

he's not seeing the field that well this year.

Tell that to this guy.

 

[ausbacker]

he's not seeing the field that well this year.

From my observation, the Offense has had trouble executing this season. Form, new players, training camp issues make of what you will. Really, I can't see the validity in not throwing to Amendola when the Patriots rolled Brady out and he hit Amendola for the game winning score against the Browns.

 

[JMC00]

Who did he target on that one.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

You mean the last two weeks where Brady has thrown for 371 and 418 yards respectively against two of the better pass defenses in the league? And been 9 for 13 when targeting Amendola.

To nip this in the bud, the call for the game winning TD was a designed pass to Amendola.

If the implication of this is he doesn't trust Amendola no-way in hell is Brady running a rollout pass to Amendola for the game winning TD. Now I know they had 3 more chances to get it in if that play didn't work but that's the first play that was called.

If Brady had a problem with Amendola or wasn't confident he's probably audibling to something else on 1st and goal.

I agree with your overall point but I believe it was 2nd down, 1st down was a run by Vereen.

 

[JMC00]

I agree with your overall point but I believe it was 2nd down, 1st down was a run by Vereen.

Nope. And Brady went to Amendola twice on that drive.

. 1st and 10 at CLE 40 (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short left to D.Amendola to CLV 30 for 10 yards (B.Skrine).
1st and 10 at CLE 30 (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete deep right to J.Boyce. PENALTY on CLV-L.McFadden, Defensive Pass Interference, 29 yards, enforced at CLV 30 - No Play.
Timeout #3 by CLV at 00:35.
1st and 1 at CLE 1 (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short right to D.Amendola for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Who did he target on that one.

Intentional grounding.....brutal

 

[PatsFan2]

Just maybe Brady is trying to protect Gronken-Dola.:bricks:

 

[PatsFan2]

Who did he target on that one.

Loked real open on that out route there.

 

[Ozymandias]

The most positive thing from this (I guess it qualifies), is that Amendola is getting separation again like he did in the first game of the season. Which in turn means he's rounding back to full health (and effectiveness).

There were games where he did in fact struggle in that particular area. So it's a good sign.

 

[NYCPatsFan]

I find it hard to imagine Brady wouldn't throw to an open receiver.

Don't tell me you forgot when Randy Moss played for us.

But of course, you are technically correct - hard to imagine Brady wouldn't throw to an open guy. But that's provided he notices them. Issue in question is why is Brady not noticing the open guy(s) and forcing throws to a well covered guy. This issue has been raised many times in the last few years.

"Who is Brady's favorite reciever?"

The open guy

As someone else pointed out correctly, this was Brady's simple response early during his career. I think Randy and Gronk justifably increased Brady's confidence that those two will catch the ball even when well covered, and this lead Brady to focus more on them.

 

[Dragda]

happens to every quarterback many times per games. non-issue.