Brady Article by Don Pompei

[Soul_Survivor88]

I think it's very naive to state it isn't PEDs. I think they all use some form of drug. Including Brady.

There's nothing wrong with a little healthy skepticism...but I think with as big of a profile -- and as many enemies as Tom Brady has -- if he was using something, we would all know about it by now

Makes for a far bigger cheating scandal than deflated footballs

 

[WinstonSmith]

I used to believe as well : then in 1988 Ben Johnson beat everyone (including HGHers such as that phoney Carl Lewis) & I realized that I had been living in a fantasy world.

So if I understand you correctly, you went from believing that virtually no one did PEDs to believing that everyone does them because Ben Johnson popped your fan roid cherry back in 88 ...makes complete sense to me.

 

[farn]

So if I understand you correctly, you went from believing that virtually no one did PEDs to believing that everyone does them because Ben Johnson popped your fan roid cherry back in 88 ...makes complete sense to me.

You can continue to believe what you want. Most on here are of your opinion.

Ben Johnson was only the point I realized how widespread it was. The baseball players in the 90s solidified my opinion. In 8th grade, I was a child - and would have never thought our athletic heroes cheat.

Tom Brady is an exceptional player with high intelligence and pinpoint accuracy. I choose to not believe he beat out all the users at the highschool level, in college, and in the pros. Golfers are using. Curlers are using. It is my opinion that almost all top level athletes in all sports are using.

 

[Nikolai]

You can continue to believe what you want. Most on here are of your opinion.

Ben Johnson was only the point I realized how widespread it was. The baseball players in the 90s solidified my opinion. In 8th grade, I was a child - and would have never thought our athletic heroes cheat.

Tom Brady is an exceptional player with high intelligence and pinpoint accuracy. I choose to not believe he beat out all the users at the highschool level, in college, and in the pros. Golfers are using. Curlers are using. It is my opinion that almost all top level athletes in all sports are using.

At least we know the source of your bias, now.

 

[Wax Frog]

He's pliable

 

[Wordsmyth]

I think it's very naive to state it isn't PEDs. I think they all use some form of drug. Including Brady.

Any evidence for that misguided belief?

 

[farn]

Any evidence for that misguided belief?

I didn't realize at what point many (most) people on here believe the NFL is clean. There is no sense in continuing, as it seems I am in the minority.

Most of the sports fans I know believe almost all pro athletes are using, so I figured this board would be the same way.

 

[Jlaff]

Great line. Applicable to all stations of life.

TFB's not just someone to be in awe of, but also to inspire people. It's inspired me. I need to up my workout regimen.

Agreed, I'm motivated to up things to one-a-days after reading that. Also motivated by my becoming dangerously close to needing a new wardrobe.

 

[Nikolai]

Agreed, I'm motivated to up things to one-a-days after reading that. Also motivated by my becoming dangerously close to needing a new wardrobe.

Yeah, that's the kinda **** that happens when you get older...can't drink all the time and do 2am Taco Bell runs without consequences.

 

[Fixit]

How in the Hell are some people jumping to the conclusion that Brady's using because he improved his performance in some drills at 39?

He's not a powerlifter or a world-class sprinter, for example, where PEDs are almost a requirement at this point.

****, I'm 43, and I guarantee you that if I committed myself even a little over the next three months I'd crush every benchmark I'm at right now.

 

[Wordsmyth]

I didn't realize at what point many (most) people on here believe the NFL is clean. There is no sense in continuing, as it seems I am in the minority.

Most of the sports fans I know believe almost all pro athletes are using, so I figured this board would be the same way.

Nice appeal to popular belief. A known logical fallacy.

 

[Gumby]

I didn't realize at what point many (most) people on here believe the NFL is clean. There is no sense in continuing, as it seems I am in the minority.

Most of the sports fans I know believe almost all pro athletes are using, so I figured this board would be the same way.

All depend what you mean by "using". When i grew up stuff like creatine was considered 'using' by many. Now it's in every locker.

At the same time as you say "everybody is using", There are nfl players going to Mexico, ordering a steak and coming back in the ped protocols without ever knowing what they ate. To me, that signifies that many more would be caught if they were so ubiquitous as you claim.

On the other hand, pedhead manning clearly used hgh and passed all his tests (and had his tracks covered by gotohell as quickly as possible). So you have to say that any Nyjfl Player with a half a brain COULD defeat the testing protocols if they wanted to. (But I think the # with half a brain resides solidly around 50%). So "stuff" is definetly OUT THERE (endemic not pandemic), and i dont think any other posters deiner that.

But to tar TB with that brush, particularly with the ample evidence to the contrary (of his clean lifestyle), that is Fairly outrageous.

 

[Nikolai]

How in the Hell are some people jumping to the conclusion that Brady's using because he improved his performance in some drills at 39?

He's not a powerlifter or a world-class sprinter, for example, where PEDs are almost a requirement at this point.

****, I'm 43, and I guarantee you that if I committed myself even a little over the next three months I'd crush every benchmark I'm at right now.

To be fair, it's one guy jumping to that conclusion.

I've seen plenty of examples in the SOF community of dudes in their late 30s and early 40s crushing the fitness standards of 20-something athletes. It takes a lot of dedication and focus. That's the uncommon part.

 

[farn]

Nice appeal to popular belief. A known logical fallacy.

As English isn't my first language, I'm afraid I don't follow what you said.

The logic I am using to base my belief that almost all pros in sports are using is that (1) it's an ultra-competitive, lucrative business (2) you need to outclass users in highschool upwards to get the ultimate prize (3) many leagues have such lax protocols that only idiots get caught (ie Ben Johnson) (4) the human race can't have evolved to such a ridiculous extent in one generation (5) many athletes are getting caught despite the ease at which one can avoid detection (6) FP Santangelo was using - it's a fallacy to believe only the buffed are using as some designer PEDs as many relievers in MLB prefer using stuff that allows them to recover faster vs get huge (7) the athletic prowess of pros awes to the point of disbelief.

It's my belief. Others have disagreed. That's ok. I am not singling out Brady, but rather stating that I believe almost all pros use. But, if one would want to play that game - it's not that hard. The precipitous rise, the body in college, the longevity...

In short : I think they all use, but Brady excels because he is also ultra smart and and he studies harder than others. But - to keep up physically...

 

[RobertWeathers]

I still can't figure out Guerrero.

Tom strikes me as a guy that picks his friends wisely.

He is clearly all-in on Guerrero's methods. Its working no question.

He has vouched for him as a person even though hes shady

Just strange.

 

[1960Pats]

In Better Shape Than Ever at Age 39: Here's How Tom Brady Does It

Well worth the read.

At the beginning of each season, the Patriots run their players through a battery of strength, speed and agility testing similar to combine drills. The purpose is to measure how the players are declining. But the damndest thing is happening with Brady. In each of the past three years, he improved his test scores in every category, according to Guerrero.

That was a great read that had one of the best lines I can remember. I stole it as my new sig line.

 

[mikey m]

As English isn't my first language, I'm afraid I don't follow what you said.

The logic I am using to base my belief that almost all pros in sports are using is that (1) it's an ultra-competitive, lucrative business (2) you need to outclass users in highschool upwards to get the ultimate prize (3) many leagues have such lax protocols that only idiots get caught (ie Ben Johnson) (4) the human race can't have evolved to such a ridiculous extent in one generation (5) many athletes are getting caught despite the ease at which one can avoid detection (6) FP Santangelo was using - it's a fallacy to believe only the buffed are using as some designer PEDs as many relievers in MLB prefer using stuff that allows them to recover faster vs get huge (7) the athletic prowess of pros awes to the point of disbelief.

It's my belief. Others have disagreed. That's ok. I am not singling out Brady, but rather stating that I believe almost all pros use. But, if one would want to play that game - it's not that hard. The precipitous rise, the body in college, the longevity...

In short : I think they all use, but Brady excels because he is also ultra smart and and he studies harder than others. But - to keep up physically...

I'm of the opinion that the number of guys continually using in the nfl is relatively low, compared to your belief. I'm also of the opinion that probably around 85% of them have tried something at least once in their lives.

Have you ever taken a ped, namely a steroid? I have, a mild one, side effects are no joke. Alot of time must be dedicated to monitoring them, dosing support supps with meal times, etc. This is especially true if one is cycling on and off consistently, say in order to fool an upcoming drug test. Dropping the steroid comes with more side effects and more meds that must be taken to overcome them and get your body and hormones back to normal. If players were doing this throughout their career, i believe it could ultimately become detrimental as much as beneficial.

Actually the safest/easiest way to do it would be to constantly(permanently) be on a low-moderate dose of test injections. This would make passing any drug test a virtual impossibility however.

I am much more ready to believe that these guys are born with freakish genetics and athletic ability whether it was unnaturally enhanced at some point or not.

 

[fnordcircle]

Apparently meditating on ley lines to reach out to the Akashic realm to ask for sports medicine advise is the real science.