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Are people here honestly this soft and jilted over him leaving?
Yup.
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No it doesn't...Little Billy just needs to stop drafting/acquiring WRs who FECKIN SUCK.It does screw with ability to draft or trade when your QB will totally and unpredictably choose who to totally ice out.
The other issue is it makes it hard to draft a receiver. You have no way of knowing Brady will trust him. Brady wanted established vets at the end, but they didn't always work out either and they take much more of the cap.
How do you keep him happy. Can't draft receivers, the ones you have are going to get older and lose a step. What do you do?
Tom Brady admits he wouldn't throw to some receivers he didn't trust
This disappoints me a little because though he said Bill agreed with him, what could he have done as a coach. Put in a receiver he thinks will help the team, but Brady won't even look at him or put in lesser receivers Brady would at least look at.
That to me definitely puts the teams failure last year a lot on Brady's shoulders. Not all, but if you aren't using all your tools then you are less likely to succeed.
Part of the offense is knowing what the defense is doing. Tom expects you to see it as he does after the snap.It isn't about being a mind reader. It's about knowing a complicated offense.
From what I have read a few years ago there is a max of 2h of on the field work which includes warmup, conditioning and stretching. There is no contact allowed (i.e. no blocking or pass rush), players are not even allowed to wear shells for most of those activities and while 11v11 happens it is at a much lower speed.
Given all the information offensive rookies have to absorb and this being their first time actually running routes I really don't see much point in suggesting that Brady and any rookie WRs could have built up a substantial amount of a headstart.
At that point given the restrictions they would be much more working on the big picture of the offense and not the little nuances that Brady expects.
Also, this notion that the Patriots resisted drafting receivers because Brady is notoriously hard to please is questionable at best.
Consider, the Steelers have had such great success drafting receivers over the years: Diontae Johnson, James Washington, Smith-Schuster, Emanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace, Santonio Holmes. Must be because Big Ben is easier to work with?
Or is it because the Steelers actually spent 3x as many premium picks (first four rounds) on receivers than the Patriots did in the last decade and a half?
The Steelers have had so many WR busts over the years, players who couldn't work with Big Ben, or anyone else. But they keep bringing in as much talent at the position as they can, because they know, they will only hit 1/3rd of the time at that position. Look at the busts:
Sammie Coates, Dri Archer, Martavis Bryant, Markus Wheaton, Limas Sweed, Willie Reid, Fred Gibson, Plaxico Burress (for where he was drafted, he was a disappointment).
That' a lot of draft capital wasted.
I don't think the Patriots hit rate is necessarily bad over the last 20 years. It was just really bad over the Dobson, Price, Boyce, Jackson period, which lasted a span of 5 years.
The Patriots, however, simply don't expend draft picks on WRs like other NFL teams do. Brady is a QB. You can bet your butt he notices these things.
The Jackson - Boyce period described above consisted of 8 drafts, not 5...So the suckiness has lasted a lot longer - basically from 2003 onwards - than it appears......I don't think the Patriots hit rate is necessarily bad over the last 20 years. It was just really bad over the Dobson, Price, Boyce, Jackson period, which lasted a span of 5 years...
How do you think a normal day of OTAs looks like ?
Obviously throwing to receivers you trust is better, but sometimes you just got to go with the guy who is open.For the past 10 years the Steelers have had better WRs and RBs yet have scored on average 50 less points a year than the Pats. And while Brady is clearly better than Big Ben maybe the offensive system has actually been pretty good and throwing to receivers you can trust and who understand the system is actually a decent idea.
It is about becoming familiar with the Pats Offensive system and the Pats culture, and Brady was not part of it.. not to say this is the biggest factor, but it is a factor.
I do not criticize Brady for not doing this, as family is more important, but remember several years ago he, Edelman and other receivers would get together for off season work?? Montana??
Or Brady trusted them, it’s a 2 way street.Tom will need to simplify things IMO
But I’ve also noticed guys with immense talent (Moss, Welker, Gronk, Hernandez, Gordon, AB) never had those “learning curve” issues.
100%! Also, trust is built.A quarterback needs to trust the players that the coaches put on the field. This COULD BE a better strategy than forcing throws to very injured players and to RB's, while essentially ignoring the other receivers on the field.
I'll probably watch every Bucs game. We won't get many more chances to watch Brady play, not going to waste em.Assuming the season does go ahead , I am sure a lot of Pat's fans will watch the first bucs game to see how brady plays
The team won 6 superbowls. Tom Brady has been an integral part of that team and the greatest QB of all time, but the question was asked and I answered. Manning had to throw to guys who came off the street and was successful. We saw the Eagles last year pull in all kinds of JAG receivers during the season and still be successful.
Sometimes you got to work with what you got and make the best of it. Brady used to do that, but not last year