Brady admits he wouldn't throw to receivers he didn't trust

[mgteich]

To state the obvious, all quarterbacks throw to receivers that they trust. Some throw to the open man, using whatever receivers the OC has in the game.
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It is limiting on the GM to have a quarterback who is especially finicky with regard to the skills of his receivers, making the choice of receivers used on plays his choice instead of that of the OC or the situation on the field.
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Obviously, Brady made this work, and made it work better than anyone in the league. I don't think that there is any question that Brady had his favorites (as every QB) and seemed to force throws to those receivers, even when 1 o 2 others were more open (perhaps more than most other QB's).
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And yes, Brady worked with some WR's in the offseason and not with others. And yes, if Brady had attended OTA's, the choice of who and how much he worked with receivers would have been up to the OC rather than Brady.
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IMO, since we no longer have the GOAT, and won't ever have him, this somewhat changes the offensive planning and also the choice of WR's. I also think that the offense will be "simpler" for a QB in his first year starting for the team. It is most unreasonable to expect a new QB to run the same plays as someone with 20 years in the system.

 

[carmelo15]

How do you think a normal day of OTAs looks like ?

it’s not what he thinks it is I’ll say that much

 

[Nunchucks]

Yes. Harry and Meyers get catches on their record. QBs get INTs not WRs. So of course all receivers want more balls thrown and more balls thrown at them. They have no downside. End of the year all anyone cares for with a WR is number of catches and Yards per Catch.

You are delusional. Name a single year Manning didn’t have Harrison (HOF), Wayne (most likely a HOF’er), Demaryius Thomas (a top 5 receiver in the early 2010’s). Most of his career he had Wayne and Harrison overlap. Early on Faulk was there. With the Broncos he had Decker, Sanders or Welker to go along with Thomas. Please........

And every Eagles fan all year was screaming bloody murder about their receivers. Nobody there thought they were “making it work”

Like wtf are you talking about. No. There is not a receiver group Manning ever had that was comparable to last season

There were years where he was throwing to Moncrief and Blaire White. Those guys have had a really hard time post peyton manning.

 

[Satchboogie3]

We saw the Eagles last year pull in all kinds of JAG receivers during the season and still be successful

While the Eagles certainly had trouble at WR, they still had one of the best TE in football and Jeffery/Agholor for big chunks of the season... Brady had a banged up Edelman and pretty much nothing else...

And what exactly are you implying by 'still be successful'? The Patriots scored more points (420, 7th) than the Eagles (385, 12th), won more games (12-4 vs 9-7). Wentz has slightly better numbers than Brady... Is that it?????

 

[Steve102]

Why is this a surprise?

 

[lancerman]

it’s not what he thinks it is I’ll say that much

What? They aren’t meditating with each other and getting on the same metaphysical plane so they can be more in sync?

There were years where he was throwing to Moncrief and Blaire White. Those guys have had a really hard time post peyton manning.

And Brady had years throwing to Dobson and Thompkins. What’s your point. The difference is Manning had a HOF safety net all the time.

 

[luuked]

it’s not what he thinks it is I’ll say that much

From what I have read a few years ago there is a max of 2h of on the field work which includes warmup, conditioning and stretching. There is no contact allowed (i.e. no blocking or pass rush), players are not even allowed to wear shells for most of those activities and while 11v11 happens it is at a much lower speed.

Given all the information offensive rookies have to absorb and this being their first time actually running routes I really don't see much point in suggesting that Brady and any rookie WRs could have built up a substantial amount of a headstart.

At that point given the restrictions they would be much more working on the big picture of the offense and not the little nuances that Brady expects.

 

[Nunchucks]

While the Eagles certainly had trouble at WR, they still had one of the best TE in football and Jeffery/Agholor for big chunks of the season... Brady had a banged up Edelman and pretty much nothing else...

And what exactly are you implying by 'still be successful'? The Patriots scored more points (420, 7th) than the Eagles (385, 12th), won more games (12-4 vs 9-7). Wentz has slightly better numbers than Brady... Is that it?????

Are you saying Wentz is better than Brady even though he had worse receiving options?

 

[Nunchucks]

What? They aren’t meditating with each other and getting on the same metaphysical plane so they can be more in sync?

And Brady had years throwing to Dobson and Thompkins. What’s your point. The difference is Manning had a HOF safety net all the time.

And who else was Brady throwing to?

 

[brdmaverick]

I said it before Harry and Meyers are the happiest Tom left followed by their respected agents

Which is weird because Meyers had one of the best catch ratios, right?

I know he didn't get many looks, but it seemed like he snagged almost every catchable ball.

I suppose maybe he didn't trust his route running?

 

[brdmaverick]

Honestly, I think this is overblown.

Another way of saying "I won't throw the ball to the players I don't trust" is........

"I throw to the players I trust."

If you word it that way doesn't it just seem obvious?

In other breaking news, Brady has been quoted in the past as saying "he'll throw to the open guy."

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Which is weird because Meyers had one of the best catch ratios, right?

I know he didn't get many looks, but it seemed like he snagged almost every catchable ball.

I suppose maybe he didn't trust his route running?

Which OTAs could of helped Tom and him get on the same page.

 

[mgteich]

Honestly, I think this is overblown.

Another way of saying "I won't throw the ball to the players I don't trust" is........

"I throw to the players I trust."

If you word it that way doesn't it just seem obvious?

In other breaking news, Brady has been quoted in the past as saying "he'll throw to the open guy."

A quarterback needs to trust the players that the coaches put on the field. This COULD BE a better strategy than forcing throws to very injured players and to RB's, while essentially ignoring the other receivers on the field.

 

[borg]

Beer drinking rookie contract Brady had no issues spreading the ball around.

Diva Brady.....
Who only dated celebrities
Who had to have his glute masseuse within 6 ft of him at all times
Who had to have his balls just right
Who only mingles with jet setters, mega yacht owners, and Hollywood elite who speak with Southie accents
Who sells monogrammed foam yoga pads for $140, Brazilian magic nuts for $49.95, and coffee table books for $600
Who promotes his fountain of youth secrets ad nauseum while never disclosing the hidden costs of defying time...ie...personal chefs, personal shoppers, imported personalized ingredients and food from organic farms worldwide, 24-7 ass massages, private jet transportation, cryogenic chamber costs, yogi, voodoo doctor house calls, private Tony Robbins sessions, etc.....
Who........

Sorry. Lost my train of thought

 

[DW Toys]

I said it before Harry and Meyers are the happiest Tom left followed by their respected agents

Indubitably!
DW Toys

 

[sean10mm]

Clearly it's the GOAT QB who is doing things wrong, and not the scrub receivers who never accomplished anything before or since and keep botching routes.

Yeah that sounds about right.

LAFFO

 

[Kdo5]

Several all star receivers who had tons of success elsewhere but seemingly iced out by Brady upon joining....

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Examples and which of them left and proceeded to do anything afterward.

 

[Doctor DDS]

With one of the worst skill position groups in the league Brady put up over 4,000 yards, led team to 7th in scoring and team went 12-4. Somehow expecting him and the team to adopt an entirely new offensive strategy to accommodate some marginally talented WR's and TE's seems a bit questionable to me. Funny how it was working fine when they had a healthy Gordon and Edelman plus Brown for a moment in the beginning of the season but Brady suddenly fell off a cliff after that tandem was no longer available.

 

[Coolade]

Brady's last 2 games were against former Patriots DCs.

Flores and Dean Peas.

Ya think they know how to defend a Brady they have watched for many years with inside knowledge at practice even. ?

A lot of this is on MCD for his stale offense that couldn't out scheme a good opponent like Charlie Weis could for example.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

With one of the worst skill position groups in the league Brady put up over 4,000 yards, led team to 7th in scoring and team went 12-4. Somehow expecting him and the team to adopt an entirely new offensive strategy to accommodate some marginally talented WR's and TE's seems a bit questionable to me. Funny how it was working fine when they had a healthy Gordon and Edelman plus Brown for a moment in the beginning of the season but Brady suddenly fell off a cliff after that tandem was no longer available.

I think the point is when Gordon and Brown were no longer on the team he af times acted like he was conceding.
When Sanu came on board it was the Edelman and Sanu show but at some point you have to trust Harry and Meyers to do what they were signed to do.
I would wager that they knew Brady had no faith in them which human nature leads to half ass routes and not running full steam.
I think we see a much different Harry this season under any other capable QB.