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  1. Ivan

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    Huh?

    Belichick just opted for Brady over Garrapolo.
     

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    Wentz is a different animal if your starting a NFL franchise you might start with Wentz I would.
     
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    That's a pretty fair take. Thanks for taking the time to write up your thoughts. :)

    While you have some solid reasoning, I disagree on two points: 1) I believe that the Bills are a solid team with talent at multiple positions. Their defense is much improved recently, and aside from quarterback, they don't have too many gaping holes in the roster. Sure, they could improve, but I think they're on the right track, considering they made the playoffs for the first time in what seems like forever. A good quarterback who can sustain drives would mask some of their other issues.

    2) I believe that the draft is highly overrated (despite spending most of my time in the draft subforum). Hit rates aren't fantastic, first of all. Second, a normal draft is seven slots, while the training camp roster is ninety players -- obviously, there's a greater ratio of free agents, trades, and undrafted free agents that go into roster building. There's no guarantee that the guy they take in the first round is going to amount to anything at all, anyway. Third, no rookie quarterback has ever started the Super Bowl, let alone won the game. That puts them at least two years out from true contention if they take a rookie. Fans and the staff have had a taste of success; do they really want to start over?

    What happens if their picks look like their 2016 draft, which is only two years ago? Their first round pick has been largely invisible due to injury, they got a decent rotational DT in the third, and the rest of the players are no longer on the roster, including their second pick (41 overall). Sure, you can say it was a different GM, but that same story is repeated all over the entire league. Sometimes you find a string of impactful players, but other times you end up with virtually nothing. Why not roll with the proven commodity?

    Winning solves virtually everything. No one cares now that we surrendered a first round pick for Belichick. The same would be true if the Bills acquired Foles and he played at a high level for the next 5 - 7 years. Now, as to the compensation itself, perhaps they can get by with only a first, instead of a first and a third. My point is more that if they like him enough to offer a second, then don't skimp on the offer. Just get it done and don't get greedy just because draft picks are looked at as such valuable commodities.

    All they really represent are hope. Better to have a quarterback.
     
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    If JG can sustain his level of play over a season then there is no way I go with Wentz. Big if.
     
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    And we can trade for Aaron Donald too, and OBJ, and and all sorts a guys......
     
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    Jimmy G Rings = 2
    Nick Foles Rings = 1

    2 --> 2nd rd
    1 --> 1st rd
     
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    Agreed, he had no business trying to extend that play that end up a completion for almost nothing in the middle of the field while leading the game for 3 scores or something. I can understand if it's a 4th down losing the game with 1 minute left, that was just bad situational football and bad judgement.
     
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    Thank you...if Jimmy G has a year next year like Foles' first year, he'll be lauded as the next coming of Brady by almost every sportscaster.
     
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    Is RPO Foles’ scheme or Peterson’s?
     
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    They were using the RPO stuff when Wentz was in there.

    The Eagles Can Beat You in Every Which Way
     
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    A second for that scrub is insane. Just the Bills being the Bills. It's not that Belichick is a genius, it's that everyone else is really stupid. This is perfect example. Or the Jags throwing their chances to compete for a title out the window with that moronic Bortles deal. Patriots were ripe for the picking. Them getting demolished by the pitiful Nick Foles proved it. A decent QB on Jacksonville wins the Jags the AFC Championship last year and they probably roll the Eagles in the SuperBowl.
     
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    How long will fans beat up BB for this trade?? A lot had to do with timing of the deal. If he were to stay with the Pats, Foles may have risen to the top and have gone to San Fran and JG's value may have been less.

    If Foles goes to the Bills, then it will once again be the Bills being the Bills.. there is no guarantee that he will be able to replicate his success on that team... Foles has only played 39 games, he will be an upgrade, but not sure how much.

    Then there are all the unsubstantiated rumors that team ______ was going to give up two first rounders for Jimmy G... started mostly by guys who were let go by team _____...

    One of the things that strikes me about the NFL is how low the trade value is for certain players, think most teams are still suffering from PTSDT from the Herschel Walker trade..

    When Jimmy G was traded to the 49'ers they were 1 & 10, when he took over they wound up 6 & 10... so the initial value of the trade went from about a 34th pick to the 43rd.... not sure anyone expected that.
     
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