Content Post Bill Belichick's draft strategy.

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Sven.....that was a good guess. You know more about Denmark than you are letting on.....

You keep sticking to one or two SB games as a basis of your opinion .....which i am not sure what it is actually because everyone and their grandmother (yours too) knows that this defense has to get better. Which requires more top end talent (not just depth).

And yet to answer any of my questions feks.
Why the top offense of the decade in 2000's Colts were < .500 in playoffs (if defense doesnt really matter)?
Why did GB and Saints: 2 of best offenses last year, lose in the playoffs to Giants and 49'ers.....(give you a hint.....starts with DEFxxxx.)

And finally, who on the Pats defense besides Wilfork do opposing defenses have to game plan for to stop ?

On offense we have Welker, Gronk, Brady, and could also be Lloyd this season. Thats 3 hopefully 4. Defense has one.......(I love Mayo but are other offenses game planning to stop him?) So that gives 3 or 4 on offense to one on defense for this upcoming season - unless we draft 1st round talent on defense this season - and not trade back or out of the first round as some are suggesting.

Sven

What did I say about selective application?

The Giants defense was ranked 27th and was ranked 6/8th in offense.

How is a 27th ranked defense better than the 24th ranked New Orleans defense?

Where exactly are you getting the notion that being ranked 27th means you have a great defense?

You can start by accepting reality and realize that the Giants and Saints are in reality similiar teams.

So why did the top ranked defense teams in San Fransisco and Baltimore lose to top ranked offense teams like New England and New York?

BTW, the reason the Colts lost so many playoff games is because they played top offenses in New Orleans, San Diego, and New England.

The Packers lost to the Giants because on a cold day on the frozen tundra, that offense was awful. No execution no winning.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Yeah, people forget that in the Super Bowl against Carolina the defense fell apart in the end. Yes, that is because in large part both Eugene Wilson and Rodney Harrison both went down with injuries. But the Pats lost them at the end of the game while the Pats' this year the Pats were with a far less than 100% Gronk and Mankins the entire game.

In five Super Bowls during the Patriots era, every single one has been won or lost by less than a TD and either team having a chance to win or tie within the final two minute warning. During the winning Super Bowls, some of the luck in the final minutes went the Pats' way (the Panthers' kicker kicking the ball out of bounds when the Pats only needed a field goal to win) and in the losses the luck went the other way (the most improbable helmet catch in league history).

The complainers on this board act like the Pats were this year's Jets (a team that employs the strategy they want the Pats to employ of agressively drafting in higher rounds) by going 8-8 and missing the playoffs when they went into the season with Super Bowl aspirations. This was a team that was leading in the Super Bowl with 1:05 left in the game. Yes, it sucks that they lost, but this still was a team minutes away from winning a Super Bowl with two of their best offensive weapons playing with significant injures that seriously hurt their playing ability.

The ONLY reason the Patriots lost the Super Bowl was a hurt Gronk and what he means to this two TE system.

What people SHOULD be thrilled about actually happened-signing Fells.:rocker:

There's no fighting miserable.

 

[AzPatsFan]

No one claims to be a football savant, but you do not need years of nfl experience to see that having a secondary comprised of the likes of ihegdibo and slater means, and having a worn out Branch as our only other viable receiver means whoever made up the roster fd up.

I'm sure Belichick took a baseball bat and injured RAS-I, Chung and Barrettt so he could have a ****ty secondary, and then burnish his coaching ability, by getting within a minute, of two more Lombardi trophies......

 

[JoeSixPat]

Bad drafting and bad use of draft picks put the Pats in a position to be win or lose by 1 play.

Classic.

You're a "the glass is 1/100th empty" kindof guy.

:itsok:

Good luck with that.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Obviously getting to the Super Bowl every other year isn't very impressive, especially if a team falls one play short two out of the five years.

For a more impartial look at this issue, the Cleveland Plain Dealer did some research on how well the Browns and all other teams have done in the draft over the last 10 years, counting both the number of All-Pro's drafted and their winning percentage over that time period.


At the risk of violating Ian's copyright policy I'm going to list all the teams that did a better job than the Patriots here:


New England Patriots best, Cleveland Browns worst at finding All-Pros in the NFL Draft | cleveland.com

 

[Ring 6]

Another strawman, no-one has claimed Belichick is perfect just that those claiming to know more, like you, are pompous arrogant douches who should stick to Madden. When you claim "the armchair QB's were right," you are talking about yourself and that is obvious, when in truth you are wrong far more than right in your criticisms

Thats the landscape of the debate. If you have a positive opinion, then you endorse the organization as perfect and never making a mistake. If you are negative you only have to find one example of bad to prove you are right to be negative about everything.

 

[Ring 6]

I agree, and the real problem is that the people com plaining are just really miserable people who will always complain no matter how much success the Patriots have. It would not matter one bit to them if the Patriots had won the super bowl they would still be shrieking and crying about passing on Clay Mathews and drafting Brace and Butler. They are fixated on Belichick passing on their binkies and really believe they know more about NFL talent and would do a better job than Belichick does. It's no different than the a-holes who insist year after year that they know more about running an offense than the OC does, no matter how good the offense is. These people are really just ,miserable, period, and try to inflate their own ego's by trashing coaches who are really good at their jobs because it somehow fills some aspect of their self worth. The patriots could win 10 super bowls in a row amnd the same armchair QB's would be spouting off about all their misses and calling those happy with their success Belichick polesmokers or homers, as they have been doing here for a long long time, in fact triumph said exactly that yesterday.

We have one poster who believes that everything that leads up to a team being in a position where 1 play decides whether they win the SB or lose it adds up to a bad job.