Bill Belichick appreciation thread

[Bill Lee]

"Bill the GM" is crushing it!




For those who think we're in "cap hell" next season:

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

My beef is, wtf did he do to get there? For the really HOF I know he had a couple of SBs. Is that all you need?

In the case of Jim Plunkett, apparently not

In the case of ... of ... what's his name ... Terrell Davis? ... apparently so

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

You do realize that Tuna Crap deserted this team and was dealing with the Jets before he left, don't you?

Similar situation to 1978 when Fairbanks was already out the door prior to the playoffs.

Grogan injury had most to do with losing to the Oilers, although there were several other critical injuries which derailed that team.

Biggest problem is Parcells' history of reliance on the run, which he just abandoned in New Orleans. Martin might have been a little dinged up but this is the Super Bowl. Kid needs at least 25 carries if you're serious about winning. Preferably 30.

Can't say this about the coaches, but I was never fooled about Bledsoe. Or Eason.

 

[1960Pats]

Similar situation to 1978 when Fairbanks was already out the door prior to the playoffs.

Grogan injury had most to do with losing to the Oilers, although there were several other critical injuries which derailed that team.

Biggest problem is Parcells' history of reliance on the run, which he just abandoned in New Orleans. Martin might have been a little dinged up but this is the Super Bowl. Kid needs at least 25 carries if you're serious about winning. Preferably 30.

Can't say this about the coaches, but I was never fooled about Bledsoe. Or Eason.

The Tuna situation is way different than the Fairbanks one. Chuck had a handful of coaching years with the Pats and was never heard from in the NYFL again. Tuna sabotaged the Pats and then became the nomad of NYFL coaching.

After Tuna left the Giants, where he didn't win without Belichick as his DC btw, he went on to pick NE coming off of a 2-14 season, NYJ a 1-15 season (the best 1-15 team ever) and Dallas coming off of a 5-11 season, as his destinations. He had some success getting to the playoffs but ended up being a loser in the dance.

But nothing will top Tuna's SB year here. While negotiating with the Jets for his entire lame-duck season, the team makes it to the SB and he didn't use CM but kicked the ball to DH. Screw Tuna Crap and the horse he rode out on (without the team as we all remember).

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Screw Tuna Crap and the horse he rode out on (without the team as we all remember).

Yup but that plane trip back from the Bayou included the crucial conversation between Kraft & Belichick where they established a rapport which has had colossal consequences in the sport which resonate to this day.

I have to credit Parcells for his utilization of Belichick on three teams. BB cut the cord on Day 4 of Y2K, but there's no doubt both men mutually benefitted from this relationship immeasurably.

Inside Bill Belichick's resignation as the Jets' coach 20 years ago

The coach's departure from the New York franchise is still shrouded in mystery, but here's what we do know from that 48-hour period when he left for the Patriots.

www.espn.com

 

[1960Pats]

Yup but that plane trip back from the Bayou included the crucial conversation between Kraft & Belichick where they established a rapport which has had colossal consequences in the sport which resonate to this day.

I have to credit Parcells for his utilization of Belichick on three teams. BB cut the cord on Day 4 of Y2K, but there's no doubt both men mutually benefitted from this relationship immeasurably.

Inside Bill Belichick's resignation as the Jets' coach 20 years ago

The coach's departure from the New York franchise is still shrouded in mystery, but here's what we do know from that 48-hour period when he left for the Patriots.

www.espn.com

If you want to give credit to someone give it to Ray Perkins for hiring Belichick before he hired Tuna Crap, who kept Bill under his thumb for as long as he could. Tuna then tried to continue to keep Belichick under his thumb when he "quit" coaching the Jete. Luckily BB saw through that bs.

It seems like you and a few other fans have forgotten how Tuna Crap tried to screw this team over while he was the HC here. I don't forget and I never will. F*** him.

 

[Sicilian]

"Bill the GM" is crushing it!




For those who think we're in "cap hell" next season:

Man, you wanna talk "cap hell", look at New Orleans. I feel like they were in the exact same position last offseason, made ZERO moves to add to the team, and they're STILL almost $60m over?

 

[Sicilian]

Also, looking at those cap numbers, it seems like there are going to be a lot of teams with a good amount of money to spend. I think we'll see Bill go back to his usual MO and stay away from big day one signings. There are going to be some loopy contracts handed out. If you're someone who's dissatisfied with the value of a contract like Agholor's (and I'm not saying you shouldn't be), just wait until some of the WR's in next year's FA class get their deals.

 

[Kontradiction]

"Bill the GM" is crushing it!




For those who think we're in "cap hell" next season:

Holy mother of God, look at the Saints.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

If you want to give credit to someone give it to Ray Perkins for hiring Belichick before he hired Tuna Crap, who kept Bill under his thumb for as long as he could. Tuna then tried to continue to keep Belichick under his thumb when he "quit" coaching the Jete. Luckily BB saw through that bs.

It seems like you and a few other fans have forgotten how Tuna Crap tried to screw this team over while he was the HC here. I don't forget and I never will. F*** him.

I understand.

I just don't want to allow hate to blind me from the truth - yeah it's Parcells being Parcells, I'm not going to thank him for ditching...I was GLAD to see him go, believe me, I did not enjoy the circus press conferences, the haughty arrogance, no. The fact local media keeps trying to put him in our HOF ahead of literally dozens more deserving just shows how f*cked up they are. Local media is permanently biased against the Patriots - since at least 1970.

I just want to appreciate the good things he did. Belichick definitely does. The players liked him, too.

 

[slam]

Holy mother of God, look at the Saints.

Looking at the Saints Spotrac last season, I had no idea how they could even field a team this season. I don't know what they did, but their offseason wasn't as drastic as I would have guessed. I guess there are ways but they could use a season like last year for the Pats where they just take their medicine for a year.

 

[Sicilian]

Looking at the Saints Spotrac last season, I had no idea how they could even field a team this season. I don't know what they did, but their offseason wasn't as drastic as I would have guessed. I guess there are ways but they could use a season like last year for the Pats where they just take their medicine for a year.

It feels like that's what they're doing already, except it's not actually clearing any cap. First year after the face of the franchise leaves, no real long term successor in place, 6-7 record. Almost identical situation, except they still have a shot at a wild card in the top heavy NFC, and they're no where near in the same driver's seat going into next offseason that the Patriots were this past season. A few years from now, it's going to be really interesting to break down the two approaches to these teams' transitions.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

"Bill the GM" is crushing it!




For those who think we're in "cap hell" next season:

This was the year to buy, and he seems to be buying the right ones

Judge it in 3 or 4 years, about half the team came from this year's spend. Of course, if you have complaints about Barmore, Stevenson, and Jones, you COULD gripe about who YOU would have drafted.

Feckin' idjits.

 

[ashley]

The GOAT!!!

 

[sb1]

The GOAT!!!

Last coach of the year who also won the Super Bowl was BB in 2003. Before that was Vermeil in 99. Before that you'd have to go back to the 80s.

So um...should we want BB to win it? Lol

 

[ashley]

Last coach of the year who also won the Super Bowl was BB in 2003. Before that was Vermeil in 99. Before that you'd have to go back to the 80s.

So um...should we want BB to win it? Lol

lol SB, I was actually talking about that with my brother this weekend. We were talking about TB-MVP and BB-Coach of the year and the possibility of meeting in the SB and we were like, I wonder if there was ever a MVP or Coach of the year that won the Super Bowl.

 

[sb1]

lol SB, I was actually talking about that with my brother this weekend. We were talking about TB-MVP and BB-Coach of the year and the possibility of meeting in the SB and we were like, I wonder if there was ever a MVP or Coach of the year that won the Super Bowl.

That's interesting! I wonder if a COTY has ever faced an MVP QB in the Super Bowl. I know they've been on the same side (Cam + Rivera in 2015 and of course BB and Brady in 2007)

List of NFL Coach of the Year awards - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I see rookie head coaches tend to win this award a lot!

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

lol SB, I was actually talking about that with my brother this weekend. We were talking about TB-MVP and BB-Coach of the year and the possibility of meeting in the SB and we were like, I wonder if there was ever a MVP or Coach of the year that won the Super Bowl.

Maybe there'll be a power outage or something and the game will end in a tie.

Nah I want us to win. We're 2-1 at SoFi, and as long as we're 3-1 at the end of the night on February 13 all the rest is secondary to me.

Unless I'm there with you, in which case of course everything including sports and whatever is a distant second.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

lol SB, I was actually talking about that with my brother this weekend. We were talking about TB-MVP and BB-Coach of the year and the possibility of meeting in the SB and we were like, I wonder if there was ever a MVP or Coach of the year that won the Super Bowl.

Unfortunately, neither the MVP or Coach of the Year can win the Super Bowl, so the game would go into overtime, followed by a second overtime, third overtime, etc. for eternity.

 

[Sicilian]

Unfortunately, neither the MVP or Coach of the Year can win the Super Bowl, so the game would go into overtime, followed by a second overtime, third overtime, etc. for eternity.

Sparking a new documentary: Tom vs. the Literal Concept of Time.