BGC 2020 OT/PTP Thread

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zimmy

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
I've started to dig into the offensive tackle class. I agree with what others have said that this is a really strong group. I assume Wirfs, Wills, Thomas and Becton will be out of our range but I like Jones and Wilson a lot at the bottom of the 1st/top of the second.

Josh Jones is really talented and I don't think the gap is that big between him and the top 4. He's just well rounded in pass and run. Could see him being our pick at 23 if we are forced to stick there. That could allow us to possibly trade Thuney for a 2nd and move Wynn inside to guard.

Wilson from Georgia is an absolute beast in the run game, really drives guys off the ball. He's also really young (and a little raw), certainly has huge room for development which is exciting. Not sure if he can play left tackle but I could certainly see him taking over from Cannon after this year. It might even allow us to trade Cannon for a draft pick now.
 

captain stone

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I've started to dig into the offensive tackle class. I agree with what others have said that this is a really strong group. I assume Wirfs, Wills, Thomas and Becton will be out of our range but I like Jones and Wilson a lot at the bottom of the 1st/top of the second.

Josh Jones is really talented and I don't think the gap is that big between him and the top 4. He's just well rounded in pass and run. Could see him being our pick at 23 if we are forced to stick there. That could allow us to possibly trade Thuney for a 2nd and move Wynn inside to guard.

Wilson from Georgia is an absolute beast in the run game, really drives guys off the ball. He's also really young (and a little raw), certainly has huge room for development which is exciting. Not sure if he can play left tackle but I could certainly see him taking over from Cannon after this year. It might even allow us to trade Cannon for a draft pick now.
Just came home from a car ride and was listening to NFL Radio on Sirius XM, hosted by two guys from PFF...they had Joshua Jones ranked higher than Becton as their #4 OT behind Andrew Thomas, Wirfs & Wills in that order...Becton's almost certainly a RT-Only, so how high should a team wait to draft him? Keep in mind that Jawaan Taylor, one of the very best OTs - and OLmen in general - from last year's draft lasted until the 2nd round because of among other things his perceived lack of RT-LT versatility...
 

Ochmed Jones

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Biadasz—not Badazz, as I’ve been writing— is an impact player and a natural fit for the Patriots.

If his shoulder injury is not chronic. Bb has the medicals and has to make that call.

but know there are a lot of good options if biadasz does not check out medically.

I really like crushenberry of LSU. He had a good year in the sec. he is not a superior athlete and I do not know if he can make proper line calls or adapt to a zone blocking scheme, but when goes forward, big defensive players go backwards.

because crushenberry played so well and covered for others mistakes, Lewis, who is not that great a player, will get drafted.
 

primetime

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I think Bartch is one of those guys who teams will like a lot but won't draft til the 3rd or 4th because using a 2nd on a D3 guy and having him bust will make you look bad. Just logival fallacy type stuff.
 

captain stone

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...In 2017, Alabama’s Cam Robinson led with 59 points followed by Utah’s Garett Bolles with 57 and Wisconsin’s Ryan Ramczyk with 53. In 2009, Baylor’s Jason Smith led with 74 points followed by Alabama’s Andre Smith with 70 and Virginia’s Eugene Monroe with 64.

Ramczyk, the No. 32 pick, made first-team All-Pro this season for New Orleans whereas Bolles (No. 20, Denver) and Robinson (No. 34, Jacksonville) remain below-average starters...
Tip o' the scally to those who had suggested - on the very day it happened - that Bill should've simply kept his 1st-rounder in 2017 and drafted Nate (last year of his contract) Solder's replacement - exactly as Solder was drafted in 2011 to be Matt Light's replacement, and Joel Bitonio should've been in 2014 to be Mankin$' replacement - in Ramczyk, and not traded for one season of the Lost Little Cookie, which also included a vig of both a 3rd-round & a 4th-round pick...
 

captain stone

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TACKLES

8. MATT PEART, Connecticut (6-6 ½, 318, 5.10, 2-3)...Name me an offensive lineman for UConn in the last 25 years,” said a third scout. “Just name one.” ...
Um...Will Beatty? Didn't take me long - as in, at all - Mr Scout (hope he doesn't work for us).
 

captain stone

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GUARDS


4. JONAH JACKSON, Ohio State (6-3 ½, 306, 5.26, 3): ...Started 16 games for the Scarlet Knights, mostly at RG but also three times at center, before moving to LG in Columbus. “I hate Rutgers players, but that Jackson kid, he’ll play 10 years,” said another scout...
Now there's a scout that I'm positive doesn't work for us...
 
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captain stone

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CENTERS


OTHERS, in order: Keith Ismael, San Diego State; Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin; Darryl Williams, Mississippi State; Trystan Colon-Castillo, Missouri; Cohl Cabral, Arizona State; Justin Herron, Wake Forest; Jake Hanson, Oregon.
Surprised at the little amount of love that Tyler Biadasz was shown here...they must feel that his shoulder might still not be ready...

Also a little surprised how low Jon Runyan was placed among the Guards...still believe he can stay outside too...
 
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BaconGrundleCandy

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Um...Will Beatty? Didn't take me long - as in, at all - Mr Scout (hope he doesn't work for us).
One thing to remember concerning "scouts".
They're basically knighted at will by a team. I remember the Fins making Matt Moore a "scout" and sent him to look at Murray, Haskins etc.
Probably a very smart guy in terms of football but is he really a scout?

I always take those quotes with a grain of salt when someone's name isn't on it.

I'll say it's not uncommon though. Teams do this a lot with former players, QBs even if they're not "scouts" in name. Teams will lean on guys they trust and know their system.
 

pats_premi

Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job
Flash. The information that you provided is appreciated, but be careful with the copyrights.
 

bakes781

In the Starting Line-Up
I'm seeing Ruiz any where from mid 1st to mid 2nd and with no 2nd I just think we can't take the chance of him falling beyond that. Cesar Ruiz is my top choice. Jack Driscoll looks like a good fit on day 3.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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I'll use this thread to talk about & breakdown the offensive tackle position. Could be a great class. How about the size! Ive seen Wirfs atop almost everyones board. Really like the player but I think its a deep class w other top tier talent that could easily push him out the top spot.

*Played multiple spots on OL
**Injury


Top Tier
Andrew Thomas - Georgia - 6'5/320

Walker Little**(helped off today, lower body) - Stanford - 6'7/315

Calvin Throckmorton*(RT/RG) - Oregon - 6'5/320

Trey Smith**(blood clots in lungs I believe) - Tennessee - 6'6/320

Lucas Niang - TCU - 6'7/330

Tristan Wirfs - Iowa - 6’5/320

Yasir Durant - Missouri - 6’7/330

Trey Adams - Washington - 6'8/320

Alex Leatherwood - Alabama - 6’6/305



2nd Tier
Julian Good-Jones*(LT/C) Iowa St - 6'5/300

Alaric Jackson - Iowa - 6’7/320

Terence Steele - Texas Tech - 6’6/320

Ezra Cleveland - Boise St - 6’6/310

Cole Van Lanen - Wisconsin - 6'5/310

Prince Tega -Wanogho - Auburn - 6’7/305

Victor Johnson - App St - 6’5/295

Scott Frantz - Kansas St - 6’5/295

Abraham Lucas - Washington St - 6’7/320

Colten McKivitz - West Virginia - 6’7/300

Landon Young - Kentucky - 6’7/305

Kamaal Seymour - Rutgers - 6'6/310

Matt Womack - Alabama - 6’7/325

Darrin Paulo - Utah - 6’5/315

Mekhi Becton - Louisville - 6’7/355

Netane Muti - Fresno St- 6’3/310

Jedrick Wills - Alabama - 6’5/310
Again I'm very happy. I might go A but let's call it a B/B+.
 

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