Bench Newton!

[Ring 6]

I imagine if you forced a middle aged man who has never played football to take snaps with 300lbs linemen running at him, the middle aged man's knee-jerk reactions might produce more yards of offence than Cam.

Sadly I don’t think you are far off.

what drives me bonkers isn’t even his lack of skills. It’s the total lack of awareness and caution for a guy who has been in the league this long.
If he ever used his running ability to escape a pass rush instead of just standing there or worse yet moving into the sack. If he didn’t see pressure coming straight at him and throw the ball directly at the rusher for a 99% chance it gets knocked down, or up in the air for a pick. If he ever had the awareness to not throw a screen pass 3 yards away to a spot the receiver isn’t in.
If he had any awareness you could deal with his lack of skill and production. But to literally dumb down the position so he can’t kill you and have him do it anyway is truly painful.

 

[captain stone]

The OL played its worst game of the season last night...Yet nearly half of those sacks allowed could have - and should have - been avoided.

Our QBs have shyte for pocket awareness...Stid's lack of it is almost to be expected to a degree...But Cant's is Inexcusable.

NFW we're beating either the Lolphins or Billiards with this level of play from them...Might as well lose to the Jesters too if that happens...

 

[jdlboot14]

who in their right mind could say they KNOW that Stid would be a worse game manager than Cam? I mean that's the argument right now. We're not competing for anything anymore. Cam is the opposite of game manager. With the focus on run game and D, there is literally nothing Stid can do that we'd say "Cam would've done better"... even running a 1yd sneak is about 20% successful. Until BB lets him play a whole game or 2, none of us can say we know he's so bad.

 

[sb1]

who in their right mind could say they KNOW that Stid would be a worse game manager than Cam? I mean that's the argument right now. We're not competing for anything anymore. Cam is the opposite of game manager. With the focus on run game and D, there is literally nothing Stid can do that we'd say "Cam would've done better"... even running a 1yd sneak is about 20% successful. Until BB lets him play a whole game or 2, none of us can say we know he's so bad.

LOL. Is Stidham even a top 10 Patriots QB this century? I'd have to say no way. I mean if he's not good enough according to the GOAT head coach to take the job of a guy who can't pass how good can he really be?

 

[sb1]

Josh McDaniels Says Cam Newton Has Been Patriots ‘Best Option’ At Quarterback All Season – CBS Boston (cbslocal.com)

Yup Josh and Bill have made their decision having seen the quarterbacks a lot more than anyone else has. Looks like it's ovah for Stiddy.

 

[PWRxWLF]

5/7, 27 yards, sacked 2 times, looked like a deer in headlights against a defense that had it's foot off the gas... and people think Stidham was great last night.

I am all for sitting Cam if we had an NFL caliber QB on this roster as an alternative. Unless Bill can find one on the street and sign him quickly - we don't.

That defense had its foot off the gas my ass. What were you watching? You had me until that one sentence. They pinned their ears back and brought it. You can be against Stidham all you want, but at least be reasonable. More often than not, he has been put in bad positions. Maybe that’s the plan, see how he holds up. **** if I know. What I do know is he gets put in when the game is out of reach, and asked to throw when the defense knows that’s exactly what he’s gonna do.

We already know what we have in Cam. Don’t need to audition him for next year when you have this whole year to see what he’s had. Put Stidham in so you can actually see what he does. Let him run with the 1’s all week, let him play in normal game situations. If he does well, great! Even if Bill hates the kid, he now has more trade value. If he plays like ****, who cares. Your starting QB has played like **** most of the year, can’t be much worse.

 

[sb1]

That defense had its foot off the gas my ass. What were you watching? You had me until that one sentence. They pinned their ears back and brought it. You can be against Stidham all you want, but at least be reasonable. More often than not, he has been put in bad positions. Maybe that’s the plan, see how he holds up. **** if I know. What I do know is he gets put in when the game is out of reach, and asked to throw when the defense knows that’s exactly what he’s gonna do.

We already know what we have in Cam. Don’t need to audition him for next year when you have this whole year to see what he’s had. Put Stidham in so you can actually see what he does. Let him run with the 1’s all week, let him play in normal game situations. If he does well, great! Even if Bill hates the kid, he now has more trade value. If he plays like ****, who cares. Your starting QB has played like **** most of the year, can’t be much worse.

Any GM who trades the Patriots more than a used towel for Stidham should be immediately relieved of their duties as GM. He stinks

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

I don't know the details why, but I read that Belichick doesn't blame the pick six on Cam.

I know its his QB, but that pick six pretty much took away any chance we had of winning that football game. I like Cam Newton as a person, but his mistakes are a pattern.

Looking back, do you guys blame the pick six on Cam? I remember the play, just not the details surrounding it.

 

[Uptown]

 

[RIpats88]

Why does the argument of "we should play stidham" keep getting confused with "stidham is the next brady!"

All people are saying is let's see what we have. He can't be that much worse than cam. If he passes for less than 100 yards and throws a pick 6 we are in the same spot

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Why does the argument of "we should play stidham" keep getting confused with "stidham is the next brady!"

All people are saying is let's see what we have. He can't be that much worse than cam. If he passes for less than 100 yards and throws a pick 6 we are in the same spot

I said in a different thread, but I don't think we have a starting QB on the roster. Cam at least might be able to motivate the guys around him since his teammates clearly like him and they play hard.

I think they all suck but Cam at the very least motivates the young guys.

 

[sb1]

Why does the argument of "we should play stidham" keep getting confused with "stidham is the next brady!"

All people are saying is let's see what we have. He can't be that much worse than cam. If he passes for less than 100 yards and throws a pick 6 we are in the same spot

Bill and Josh already "saw what we have" and in their opinion, it's not good. Otherwise he'd be starting right now.

Don't see the point of us trying to validate their decision for them.

 

[jdlboot14]

Bill and Josh already "saw what we have" and in their opinion, it's not good. Otherwise he'd be starting right now.

Don't see the point of us trying to validate their decision for them.

Because these are the idiots that have kept Meyers and Harris on the bench the first 6 weeks when they're the ONLY decent skill guys we have. Yes, I said it. Sometimes coaches out-think themselves, and BB is an old school creature of habit. But, with his skill position drafts and trades over the last 10 years, are we not allowed to say he might not be right???

 

[lancerman]

Why does the argument of "we should play stidham" keep getting confused with "stidham is the next brady!"

All people are saying is let's see what we have. He can't be that much worse than cam. If he passes for less than 100 yards and throws a pick 6 we are in the same spot

Because it’s not getting confused?...

 

[lancerman]

Because these are the idiots that have kept Meyers and Harris on the bench the first 6 weeks when they're the ONLY decent skill guys we have. Yes, I said it. Sometimes coaches out-think themselves, and BB is an old school creature of habit. But, with his skill position drafts and trades over the last 10 years, are we not allowed to say he might not be right???

Both guys you mentioned got limited play time and proved they deserved more. Harris and Meyers both started with small numbers of reps and improved on Sony and Harry. Nobody is making that argument for Stidham because he hasn’t shown anything when he got a lot of playing time for a back up. The argument for him seems to be “just make him a starter so we can know for sure” when the team isn’t mathematically out yet.

 

[Zuma]

Why does the argument of "we should play stidham" keep getting confused with "stidham is the next brady!" All people are saying is let's see what we have.

Patriots fans have been spoiled obviously. These are the snowflakes that forget it takes time to develop most if not all players at the NFL level especially at the QB position (Example: Steve Young didn't turn out so bad). Snowflakes demand results ASAP.

 

[sb1]

Because these are the idiots that have kept Meyers and Harris on the bench the first 6 weeks when they're the ONLY decent skill guys we have. Yes, I said it. Sometimes coaches out-think themselves, and BB is an old school creature of habit. But, with his skill position drafts and trades over the last 10 years, are we not allowed to say he might not be right???

They’re starting now because they earned it on the field. The only thing Stidham has earned by his play is his maybe permanent position on the bench while he wears this uniform.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

They’re starting now because they earned it on the field. The only thing Stidham has earned by his play is his maybe permanent position on the bench while he wears this uniform.

That is maybe true for Harris but Meyers is playing solely because Edelman and Harry got injured and other than Byrd we had nothing else otherwise he would still be the 4th or 5th receiver despite Bill seeing him every day for 2 years. I think Bill was thinking Meyers can’t play and was forced into playing him

 

[p8ryts]

That pick 6 on the attempted screen pass is as bad as it gets from the QB position. He clearly should have been pulled after that.

Cassell was trying to alibi for Cam on the post game. I didn’t buy his rationale.

 

[NormZauchin]

Some have speculated that Bill wants to make sure that Cam hits as many of his contract incentives as possible but the only additional incentives that he can hit are playing time bonuses, which only increase by 250K at each level (unless they make the playoffs and that went bye-bye last night).

I think one of his incentives was to throw for 12 or more interceptions.