Bedard: There was second guessing about Mayo over summer and him getting a second year isn't guaranteed

[The Gr8est]

1) Hmmm.

2) I am not advocating that they hire a combo HC/GM, I am saying that to fix a mess this profound, they need a strong HC and that they are more likely to get such a person if they give him a voice in hiring the GM (rather than the more customary reverse). I understand the risks in this (many GM candidates would not want to work under a dominant HC), but the present Pats team is a special case. It is rare for a team to fall this low.

3) If they got advice last time, they obviously need to get their advice elsewhere this time, and I doubt in any case that Robert consulted old NFL hands as he was experiencing his developing mancrush on Mayo as they meandered amongst the olive groves in the Holy Land.

4) Not sure what you mean here. I will concede that the Krafts are likely excellent bean counters, that when it come to extracting beer profits from fans they are stellar, and when it comes to efficiently overseeing the construction of faux lighthouses, they are without peer, but they are not hiring an accountant here, and the problem - it is screamingly obvious - is that at this point at least they suck the big one when it comes to hiring the management for a football team.

Regarding item #1, I don’t think there is any way BB would agree to come back.

 

[Ring 6]

AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW
This team will be much more attractive to free agents and coaches this coming off-season compared to last.
1) We have a QB who looks fine.
2) There won't be the huge increase in cap money.
3) We will have $140M in cap money available. Coaches and free agents will know that there will be several major additions in free agency and through trade.
4) The OFFENSE will secure a top WR. The rest of the focus will be on the OL over the next two years.
5) We will be able to afford several top additions on DEFENSE. There will be plenty of cap money, including an extra $30M not spent this year. That $30M might buy a player or two or three.
6) Kraft gave Mayo a shot, after speaking to lots of folks. He knew who was really available and what kind of control that coach would want. Mayo is an interim coach. Sure, he might have succeeded and stayed.

NOTES
A) There will not be questions on who is in charge. Kraft won't hire a coach who also needs to be GM or to control the GM. Kraft can choose to have both the GM and HC report directly to Jonathan, or the HC can report to Wolf. In any case, that will be known when choosing the coach.
B) My guess is that the HC will report to Wolf, and that, obviously, Wolf and the Kraft's will agree on that coach. Isn't that what we wanted for Belichick, for him to be the HC and to split off all GM responsibilities? In the end, this was unacceptable to Bill.

BOTTOM LINE
Believe it or not, the team will be a top choice for coaches in the next off-season, with the $140M of cap money, our injured coming back on Defense, and with a QB ready to go, after getting the rest of the season to develop.

But, yes, it is sad to see how badly Mayo has done. AVP and McAdoo have/had control of the Offense. Mayo needed to help Covington run the Defense. In addition, Mayo needed to be strong spokesman for the team, with the ONE major responsibility of keeping a weak team on track as it looked forward to the next off-season. Mayo needed to maintain discipline. He simply failed.

When was Mayo announced as an interim HC.

Why do people insist on making excuse for every failure.

Either Wolf is incapable of signing FAs or Kraft was being cheap, but people want to dismiss that and say we are the only team in history that no free agent would sign with.

Kraft hires a coach who looks bad, and now we want to make the excuse that despite him making that decision 5 years earlier, that we are the only team r er who couldn’t find a coach so we really didn’t want to hire the guy we chose 5 years ago and he’s just an interim coach Kraft never wanted.

When do we begin to hold people accountable?

 

[Ring 6]

Regarding item #1, I don’t think there is any way BB would agree to come back.

No chance.

 

[Steve102]

No way Bill comes back. Kraft would have to sell the team to get Bill back to coach for the Patriots. Right now, I question how Bill will don a red jacket. The animosity that Kraft has displayed in the last 6-8 months is mind boggling to me. I consider myself a former member of IBWT, and I was ready to have him go, based on Mac's failures, the Judge/Patricia fiasco and the overall roster situation. There's no doubt the guy knows X's and O's better than anyone, but the game has passed him by as a GM. With all that said, Kraft's behavior has been inexcusable when it comes to the architect of the Patriots and the unprecedented 20 year run. Even if he didn't love Bill, he could have publicly been pumping his tires. Instead, he looks petty.

It's a bad look. Fighting over scraps after the party is over.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Ty Law also calling Mayo out saying he needs to do more than just stand on the sidelines and watch the other coordinators.

 

[Froob]

We’ve been through this many times.
Just take a look at the free agent list and compare it to the players we are sending out there.
There were literally dozens of players better than what we have.
Whatever combination of those he signed would be better than having the money sitting in krafts bank account.

Let’s try this a different way. Give me a list of all the players on the 53 man roster than couldn’t have been upgraded in free agency.

Give me 3 players

 

[Ross12]

To me off the record should be used in a lot of ways but should not go on the air/print. Might be used to know they're is story they just need to chase it down elsewhere or maybe even vice versa there's nothing here but I still can't be a leak.

What you're describing sounds more like unnamed sources.

I think you're technically right, but reporters say "this was said to me off the record" all the time these days.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Give me 3 players

Literally anyone over Jacoby Brissett. I called it miles away that this was going to be a disaster signing. He didn't disappoint.

Dugger should've been kicked to the curb for McKinney who's a real FS and currently leads the NFL in INT's. This also would've helped get Mapu out of the rotation or at worst play the #3 S like Dugger was back when McCourty and Phillips were the main guys. Peppers replaces Dugger as more of a box S.

Derrick Henry over extending Rham for absolutely no reason. Wow! So many teams slept on him.

Calvin Ridley over Bourne. Signing Bourne so early was dumb and that money could've been applied for the "tax" difference.

Not many names, but that's there's 4.

 

[Boston Boxer]

I don't think they will cut bait so soon. This is Kraft's hand picked guy and it has been in the works for 5 yrs (per reports). It would take a huge mea culpa on Bob's part to fire him after one year. also might not be beneficial to get rid of the coaching staff on the O side of the ball and basically restart Maye's progression

 

[Ring 6]

Give me 3 players

Pick your own 3 there are dozens.

 

[Froob]

Literally anyone over Jacoby Brissett. I called it miles away that this was going to be a disaster signing. He didn't disappoint.

Dugger should've been kicked to the curb for McKinney who's a real FS and currently leads the NFL in INT's. This also would've helped get Mapu out of the rotation or at worst play the #3 S like Dugger was back when McCourty and Phillips were the main guys. Peppers replaces Dugger as more of a box S.

Derrick Henry over extending Rham for absolutely no reason. Wow! So many teams slept on him.

Calvin Ridley over Bourne. Signing Bourne so early was dumb and that money could've been applied for the "tax" difference.

Not many names, but that's there's 4.

How much is Henry going to change this team? Ridley has sucked. Brissett didn't matter, needed the kid in there.

 

[Froob]

Pick your own 3 there are dozens.

Can you name even one player

 

[TommyD4207]

They've hit rock bottom.

No, Rock Bottom's going to be 1-16, after 16 straight losses.

 

[TheRainMaker]

How much is Henry going to change this team? Ridley has sucked. Brissett didn't matter, needed the kid in there.

I was just picking 4 better players that were available.

 

[sportnik]

No, Rock Bottom's going to be 1-16, after 16 straight losses.

If Mayo can’t fix the run D, 1 & 16 is a lock. Problem is being a hands-off “CEO” coach, calling your team soft & delegating to your inexperienced DC, isn’t going to get it done.

He’s going to have to actually roll up his sleeves and do some actual work (coaching & scheming, the horror!) or this team is going to humiliated every F’n Sunday.

 

[mgteich]

Literally anyone over Jacoby Brissett. I called it miles away that this was going to be a disaster signing. He didn't disappoint.

Dugger should've been kicked to the curb for McKinney who's a real FS and currently leads the NFL in INT's. This also would've helped get Mapu out of the rotation or at worst play the #3 S like Dugger was back when McCourty and Phillips were the main guys. Peppers replaces Dugger as more of a box S.

Derrick Henry over extending Rham for absolutely no reason. Wow! So many teams slept on him.

Calvin Ridley over Bourne. Signing Bourne so early was dumb and that money could've been applied for the "tax" difference.

Not many names, but that's there's 4.

Perhaps they would have signed with the patriots if you were the GM.

 

[TommyD4207]

If Mayo can’t fix the run D, 1 & 16 is a lock. Problem is being a hands-off “CEO” coach, calling your team soft & delegating to your inexperienced DC, isn’t going to get it done.

He’s going to have to actually roll up his sleeves and do some actual work (coaching & scheming, the horror!) or this team is going to humiliated every F’n Sunday.

I wonder if you can get action on Breece Hall setting the single-game rushing record this weekend?

 

[Ring 6]

Can you name even one player

I’ve named about 70 before pick the ones you like, they all would be better than players we have on the roster.

I see you didn’t respond to my question.

 

[TommyD4207]

Literally anyone over Jacoby Brissett.

I'm going to push back on this, because you needed an actual quarterback. Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe are both terrible.
What I will say, is if Maye was this good in camp, there was no reason to sit him Game 1. You wasted 5 games of his development for literally no reason.

 

[TommyD4207]

I was just picking 4 better players that were available.

Yes, and all they cost was money.
50 million of which is still sitting under the owner's mattress to roll into next year.

But at least they re-signed Onwenu and Dugger, who have both just been godawful.